Jets Hire Game Management Coordinator

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  1. CotcheryFan

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    I fear that a position like this takes the head coach one step farther away from what's going on; does this mean that someone other than Saleh will actually be making the decision on going for it or not on fourth down? The Jets have already had problems with decision making and communication between the HC, the coordinator and the QB; if this is designed to prevent that it could be a plus, if it just complicates the process it is not.
     
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    all the good coaches are doing this. There's a guy that stands next to Harbaugh in Baltimore every game for these scenarios.
     
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    If you have the HC and the 4D guy discussing it then getting the OC on a conference call to decide the play, I guess it's not surprising the play doesn't get to the QB fast enough sometimes. The guy who stands next to Saleh now is there to keep him from running onto the field.
     
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    He takes Matt Burke's job. Burke's was the time management coach and the coach that scouted opponents with analytics. He got a promotion to go to the Cardinals and is one of 5 assistant coaches that have left. So far we have replaced two so I would expect more hires. I guess it is good to see our coaches being picked up by other teams for bigger roles but still sucks to have replace coaches.
     
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    I wish we knew more about the mechanics of those leaving. Did they look to get out or did Saleh let them know things weren't working out here? I certainly hope it was more the latter because it would demonstrate proactivity rather than complacency.
     
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    all i know is we better not be pulling any flat out stupid shit like the bolts did last year
     
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    The head coach really shouldn't be doing a lot of the in-game management they do now.

    They should be managing and making sure the preparation for the game is as good as it can be. Approving the game plans on offense and defense. Managing the adjustment process at halftime. Figuring out whether challenges are worthwhile. Yelling at players who are doing stupid things on the field. Stepping in during the game only when something is off the tracks and needs to be rebooted immediately if the team is going to have a chance to win. Making the call on whether a player is going to return when the medical staff is uncertain. Etc.

    All of that is more than enough to handle in real time.

    Decisions like timeouts and whether to go for it on 4th down should be systematic and handled by a game management coach. It's not like those are rocket science. One guy can handle the clock and possession calls and let the head coach do the things that need to be watched 60 minutes a game to give you your best chance.
     
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    I guess opinions vary more on this than I thought they would; coordinators and position coaches seem to be in a better place to deal with the minutiae of the game like correcting player errors while strategic decisions are rightfully the purview of the head coach - the buck stops with him.
     
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    Or neither - they got a promotion and accepted it.
     
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    Well that would be the first option - they looked to get out.
     
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    They were looking to leave is completely different than they were offered a bigger opportunity elsewhere.
     
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    This is splitting hairs, one's motivation for deciding to leave is not the question. The question I'd like to know the answer to (and probably never will) is were the guys who left guided toward the door because their bosses were not happy with their performance or was the decision to leave theirs alone? Let's face it, there had to be room for improvement somewhere in the organization, were the leaders ready to make that improvement? Are the guys who left the weakest links? More important, will their replacements represent an upgrade? Or were the guys departing moving up in life because they were performing?
     
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    Not a fan of these calculator nerds. What are the head coach and coaching staff there for? I hate it in baseball and its probably worst in football.
     
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    I see it as insurance. It all starts and ends with the HC and I want the HC to be making the call.

    However, just having someone keep him in the loop on game management, should limit the coaches losing where they are.

    Even at the end of game, just refreshing how long we would have left on the clock if we burn 3 time outs for example so they all know what they would be working with rather than thinking about it.

    For me, just a dude who will keep everyone updated so the HC makes the call they want.

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    So the Jets felt that last year Saleh lost them some games, hate to break it to Jets but we already knew this and questioned his decision making.

    So instead of Saleh learning from his mistakes and not doing those things again, the Jets hire someone to tell him not to do it.

    I get the whole analytics part of the game, but Saleh should only be using this guy a small percentage of the time if he had a feel for the game the way good HC do.

    While we are at it, maybe the new hire can tell him to get rid of Ulbrich, I’m sure there is analytic data to show how bad he is as DC.
     
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    We had someone in the sa.e position last year. He left for a promotion and we just replaced him. This isn't something new.
     
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    I know we did and Saleh still made bad decisions during games, he possibly cost jets 2 or 3 wins, so either the other guy was not good or Saleh isn’t good because he doesn’t know how to use information given to him.

    This is my issue with in game manager, he’s not the one who pays the price for failure of the high percentage play analytics says to use.

    It’s the players and HC, the in game manager can say he’s only the analytics guy and get hired by another team, which brings me to my next point, why would I hire the analytics guy that came from a team that sucks?
     
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    Methinks there’s a whole lot of overthinking going on here.
     
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    It didn’t get a lot of attention last year because it was likely in a block of coaches that were all announced at once and the focus was on the coordinators .
     
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