Too much will ride on Wilson's success in 2022

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  1. Br4d

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    It was my support for Sanchez and Darnold and my observations of what went wrong that led me to almost immediately reject Zach Wilson.

    He's not as good a prospect as either of the guys who preceded him, both of whom played very well in strong programs against strong opposition in college.

    Zach was like a cotton candy pick to market around.
     
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    BTW I hope I'm wrong also but I doubt it.
     
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    Outstanding!
     
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    Saleh's Jets need to get the offense installed. That's priority one because they'll never develop a raw prospect like Zach Wilson in an unfinished offensive install. He'll get in the way of the install and the install will get in his way and the prospects of failure go way up when those things are happening.

    Getting a guy like Garoppolo would not put the Jets over the top but it would give them a real chance to get offense installed. It would give Zach Wilson some time on the sidelines to absorb the differences between the FBS Independent scene and the NFL. It would do both without him taking a lot of heavy hits in the process. It would do both without having his personal skin in the Jet's W-L record as they install the offense and try to fix the defense.

    We've already seen that the offense can work, as all the Jets backup QB's last year had better success in it than Zach did. Getting the offense down and *then* inserting the young QB is the better way to go for the Jets at this point. Among other things it would give the current regime the best chance of sticking around and getting the job done.

    The next regime is going to drop Zach like a hot potato because he's going to be the primary reason Douglas and company got fired.
     
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    Not sure that Sanchez had more potential than Zach, but Darnold definitely seemed to. Doesn't matter. You are right about Wilson. At the very least, he needs to compete for his job, whether its against Mike White, Joe Flacco, Jimmy Garoppolo (ugh, what is that going to cost?) or whomever. And he needs to sit if someone else runs the offense better. Because this offense shows some promise, and this coaching staff/front office shows some promise. And I think it might take as much as 2-3 more years...and they can't be dragged down by stubborn allegiance to a number 2 pick, or, like you said, they'll be gone and we'll be starting all over again.
     
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    Because you are the expert. Give me a break , you are just clueless.
     
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  7. PennyandtheJets

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    It was his first career NFL Game.
     
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    Neither had more potential than Zach. Darnold had one good season as a Freshman then sucked the rest of his college career. This notion that Zach is bad because he played for BYU is ignorant.

    We won four games should have won 5. All these other QBs doing great yet we only won one game wit these other QBs doing so great.

    Zach played great the first of the eagles game and great against the Bucs. He is on upswing. To put in a JAG like Jimmy G would be horrible for this team.

    Zach's coaches and teammates love him let's give the kid a chance. I will be shocked if this kid fails.
     
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    Wilson has a incredibly quick release and that’s going to get him out of a lot of trouble. I think he has a really high ceiling if JD can get him a true 1 receiver.
     
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    This is so completely wrong. On what basis do you make this assessment? Sanchez played only 1 YEAR in college before being drafted! Even his own HC told him he ought to stay at least one more year. And Darnold actually regressed his second year starting. In any case, neither showed the arm talent and feel for the game that Wilson has. But you're absolutely fixated on wanting Zach to fail to prop up your own ego-based "analysis" you can't see any of that.

    And to think, you used to be a really good poster, actually adding to the discussions here.
     
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    The idea of either Sanchez or Darnold having more potential than Zach is hilarious it's so totally out of the realm of reality. Zach IS our QB. Deal with it. He's not going be sitting for anyone else.
     
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    Amen to that. He obviously has no clue, no understanding of what he's seeing what he watches football.
     
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    It's okay for you, as a fan, to have that attitude - just as long as the coaching staff understands their job is to put the best guy on the field to win games.
     
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    When do they get a chance to develop a young player in that scenario?
     
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    Any time that does not involve losing games during the regular season. For example, pre-season games. If they were determined to play Wilson during the season why did they hold him out of the preseason games so much?
     
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    So never then, my comment didn't mention Wilson, it mentioned young players, which this team has in abundance and will no doubt be acquiring another bunch in the draft.

    You mentioned playing the best guys to win games.

    So taking Wilson, seeing as you mentioned him, then Flacco is still the best QB in this squad to give you your dream scenario, good luck ever progressing forward from 6-8 wins a season though.

    The same comment applies to filling a team with win now type of players like we have tried in the not-too-distant past, how did that work out again?

    But if you think players can develop in 4 preseason games then I have nothing left to say on the subject.
     
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    As if you needed another reminder that you'll get nowhere trying to engage with a contrarian.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

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    You don't get it. The Jets have committed to Wilson as our QB for the forseeable future. They're not going to bring in Garoppolo or any other QB and start him and sit Zach. That would the dumbest possible thing that they could do. The only way the Jets would start looking elsewhere for a QB is if Zach shits the bed in 2022. Then they'd probably start looking for 2023. That's not going to happen, however.
     
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    Dude, you should just stop. You're showing your ignorance and should be embarrassed.
     
  20. Br4d

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    Actually he's spot on here.

    Veteran starting QB's get held out of a lot of the camp action for fear of injury but rookie QB's get thrown in to see if they sink or swim. The Jets just assumed Zach was going to swim. That or they were afraid he'd sink in the pre-season and get in the way of their marketing plans for opening day.
     
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