lets go back a bit. Sanchez led the jets to almost glory his first few seasons. An early draft selection. I certainly wasn't complaining about his QB skills at that point. A good job by the front office! Skillfull drafting!!! Was I and many others wrong (history seems to say so)? Was this a poor draft decision or did the subsequent decisions and team personnel rollover lead to dismal performance? Doesn't matter. What seemed excellent drafting turned out not to be. Stuck for a QB they drafted Geno. I thought a bad choice at that time. The jets thought otherwise. But they really had to get a QB. Every QB that draft year is a dismal failure. What can you say. Next draft opportunity after Smith proves a failure, was after Winston and Mariota, namely the immortal Bryce Petty. Can't miss Winston and Mariota and sure to miss Petty all turned out to miss. Lots of skill in drafting wasted here. Then old timer fill-ins plus the even more immortal Hackenberg, The bears (trubisky) and titans (Corey Davis. Corey Davis. Corey Davis) leaving Watson, Mahomes and others on the table. Finally the consensus suck for Sam falls into our lap. Draft skill completely evident here. OOPS. all drafted players were standouts in college. Mostly all unbelievable physical specimens. How many "guaranteed" players panned out according to their draft status. I have no idea but I suspect it is not a very high percentage. And the lower down the draft round, the more a crapshoot. Which is why many fans want to see trade downs to accumulate picks in hoping some pan out. Not my philosophy but legitimate if you think either talent is widely and perhaps randomly distributed, or your think luck plays a big part in draft success and the more picks the more chance you get lucky..
For me... This kind of goes against my own rule when I base things off of what school a prospect comes from. I always view prospects as individuals and what they contribute to the game, regardless of where they went to school. Rate the talent, not the program. ..with that said. Iowa has been an amazing NFL caliber OL factory for many years now. They know how to recruit and coach them up there. Aside from that though. As just a player evaluation. Linderbaum Is nasty. IMO His tape screams dominate and NFL ready. I love this kid. I would love to trade back and get him but If we took him at 10, I would still be happy about It. I think he will be a all pro caliber player In the NFL. My take of course.
You can really get a lot closer to that quality player with a "guarantee" by finding a guy who has already played in the NFL. Yep, I'm talking free agency - the entire draft process has a lot to do with luck.
Absolutely not. If we take another OL in the first over a playmaker I’ll loose my shit. We need to try and advance Wilson’s career not hinder it with a rookie Center. I’d rather trade a 4th or 5th round pick for a solid veteran Center than draft one in the first round and go through more growing pains. Plus we need to use our top 4 picks of premium positions that impact the game. I want to see something like this: 1.4 CB -Derek Stingley 1.10 WR - Garrett Wilson 2.35 Edge - Cameron Thomas 2.38 LB - Chris Harris Now if Kayvon or Hutchison falls to 4 you prioritize Edge and grab a CB later within those first 4 picks. Maybe someone jumps in front for a WR too. Id like to see some like this in that situation. 1.4 Edge - Kayvon 1.10 LB - Lloyd 2.34 WR - Olave 2.38 CB - Elam I think you get my point that in my opinion we need to take the best player on JDs board within these 4 positions WR/CB/Edge/LB. Todays NFL is all about passing, defending passing and pass rushing. The run game today is to set up passing. We are weak at the premium positions to be successful passing the football (Besides QB because I feel Wilson can be great) at WR we got some nice pieces but we need a true #1. At Corner we also need a true #1. Pass rush took a hit with injuries and maybe Lawson is the answer BUT you can never have to many edge rushers. Mosley needs a partner that can stay on the field at the linebacker position.
The argument for taking Linderbaum has a lot of merit due to how weak the top of this draft is. Linderbaum is arguably the closest thing to a sure thing in this draft. If we draft Linderbaum we could either move McGovern to guard or attempt to trade McGovern which would free up 9 million in salary cap space. Ideally in such a weak draft the best move would seem to be to trade back and stockpile picks for next years draft. But, I would imagine that every team wants to do this.
This is my preference if we trade back. Spreading out draft capital to ensure we're consistently adding talent seems like a winning strategy, especially with such a huge talent drop off from outside the top 10.
If you want Linderbaum, you have to get him at 4. Trading back is not that easy, you need to find a willing partner. Also, if you trade out of top 10, most likely he and other OL studs are gone. Now we might get lucky and he is there at 10, then run to the podium, but I just think he won't last past the Giants.
Because we are one of the most poorly run franchises in the NFL. If you're just referring to the JD era - then it's because he overrates the importance of OL and thinks you need to burn first rounders on them despite JD himself having a highly questionable eye for OL talent.
Correct but my point was that good guards can be found in later rounds at a higher rate than almost every other position.
There Is zero chance that Linderbaum goes In the top 5. Centers aren't valued In the first round. There have been only 12 centers taken in the first round since 2000. Mike Pouncey is the highest center taken in the draft since 2000. He was drafted No. 15 overall in 2011 Garrett Bradbury (2019) Billy Price (2018) Frank Ragnow (2018) Ryan Kelly (2016) Travis Frederick (2013) Mike Pouncey (2011) Maurkice Pouncey (2010) Alex Mack (2009) Eric Wood (2009) Nick Mangold (2006) Chris Spencer (2005) Jeff Faine (2003) It would be far more shocking If he wasn't there at pick 10. By a good margin actually.
Why am I not surprised? It figures that you'd come up with the worst possible ideas for the drafts I've seen this offseason. You talk about helping Zach and not drafing a Center who is already better than the vet Center we have, and then you want to draft an often-injured CB or draft a S, or draft two WRs who aren't what we need, and in another scenario, you have 3 of the top 4 picks all being defense. How does any of that help Zach? The answer is it doesn't.
I agree with your first paragraph. I disagree with your second paragraph, however. In a weak draft, actually you want to keep you early draft picks since by definition of "weak" the prospects get worse and worse the lower one drafts. That said, I also disagree that this is a weak draft. It isn't. It's a weak draft for QBs, but a very strong and deep draft at LB, Edge, S, OL, CB, TE, RB, and maybe at DT. I haven't been paying any attention to the latter because we have other more important needs.
By weak draft I meant the draft is very weak and lacks blue chip players at the top end. It has has depth but players drafted in the top 10 would arguably be late 1st rounders in a normal draft.
