I wrote blurbs for Jets picks and any other trades. I have the Jets 2nd rounders at the bottom as well. 1. JAC: Aidan Hutchinson, ED, Michigan 2. DET: Kayvon Thibodeaux, ED, Oregon 3. HOU: Kyle Hamilton, S, Notre Dame 4. WAS: Kenny Pickett, QB, Pittsburgh —Washington wants a new QB to with their new brand. In Rivera’s 3rd year, he finally gets to pick one. Jets get 2022 2nd (42) and 2023 1st. 5. NYG: Derek Stingley Jr., CB, LSU 6. CAR: Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss 7. NYG: Evan Neal, OT, Alabama 8. ATL: Garrett Wilson, WR, Ohio State 9. HOU: Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State —Denver acquires Deshaun Watson so Houston has another top 10 pick. 10. NYJ: George Karlaftis, ED, Purdue —With the first pick in this draft now at 10, Karlaftis is good value after slipping past the Falcons. The powerful and athletic edge rusher helps juice and depth in the Jets front. 11. NYJ: Jordan Davis, IDL, Georgia —This is a player I’ve gone back and forth on in my head. He is a monster of a human, and he is most impactful with a lesser snap count. However, no player would make the immediate impact on the Jets run defense that Davis would. The Jets’ DL would boast an 8 man rotation of Carl Lawson, Quinnen Williams, Jordan Davis, John Franklin-Myers, George Karlaftis, Sheldon Rankins, Johnathan Marshall, and Bryce Huff. 12. MIN: DeMarvin Leal, IDL, Texas A&M 13. PHI: Andrew Booth Jr., CB, Clemson —Philadelphia moves up 2 spots to grab a CB to pair with Darius Slay and round out their secondary. 14. BAL: Tyler Linderbaum, IOL, Iowa 15. CLE: Treylon Burks, WR, Arkansas —Cleveland missed out on Garrett Wilson so they drop down to the Eagles spot and take their other favorite pass acts her 16. PHI: David Ojabo, ED, Michigan 17. NE: Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama —New England moves up 4 spots to make sure they get an explosive receiver to change the dynamic of their offense. 18. NO: Charles Cross, OT, Mississippi State 19. PHI: Devin Lloyd, LB, Utah 20. PIT, Kenyon Green, IOL, Texas A&M 21. LAC: Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State —The Chargers we’re hoping for one of the big IDL’s to be there but since they want to target one in the 2nd. The trade back helps 22. MIA: Nicholas Petit-Frere, OT, Ohio State 23. LV: Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State 24. ARI: Roger McReary, CB, Auburn 25. CIN: Nakobe Dean, LB, Georgia 26. BUF: Darian Kinnard, IOL, Kentucky 27. DET: Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina 28. DAL: Jaquan Brisker, S, Penn State 29. KC: Travon Walker, ED, Georgia 30. TB: Kaiir Elam, CB, Florida 31. TEN: Trevor Penning, OT, Northern Iowa 32. GB: Jermaine Johnson, ED, Florida State 35. NYJ: Trey McBride, TE, Colorado —McBride offers the best dual threat TE package in this years draft, and the Jets add him with their first 2nd round selection. 38. NYJ: Zion Johnson, IOL, Boston College —The Jets don’t hit OL round 1 but they get the likely Week 1 starter at RG in Round 2. 42. NYJ: Christian Harris, LB, Alabama —Harris can slot next to Mosley, probably as the WLB, and then if the Sherwood experiment doesn’t work they can look for a new MLB in 2023. This is the 2nd rounder acquired from Washington.
Phew that draft would anger a lot of Jets fans. I'm cool with the Karlaftis pick in a trade down, as well as all the day 2 picks you have there. Huge McBride fan. Would be curious to see how the Jets address the WR position if it's not in the draft. Connor Hughes seems to think they address it in FA or through trade -- Calvin Ridley or Michael Thomas
Hate the Jordan Davis pick, Max. I watched him all game yesterday and his compadre, Devonte Wyatt did a lot of the work against the interior eating up blocks. It’s only one game, but you actually pointed out to me his low snap count. I went back and watched some film and he just stands straight up a lot, holds his offensive lineman up and tries to clothesline the running backs head off. Give me Nakobe Dean there. But I think we need an offensive player in the first round even if not receiver. I can’t imagine not taking a receiver with the first 5 picks as much as I like the other selections.
Love the trade down from 4, hate the picks. Davis is good for about 2.5 quarters per game before he gasses out. I also don't like the idea of neglecting offense with both first round picks. Our defense is worse, sure, but reaching for an EDGE and taking an interior DL isn't going to move the needle there anyway. I don't mind the McBride and Johnson picks in the 2nd round though.
Sorry, but I just can't get behind the Davis pick. I think Karlaftis can become a good pass rusher, so I'm ok with getting him. McBride, Johnson, and Harris would all fill big holes and would be well received on this site.
I like the Karlaftis pick but not a fan of the Davis pick.. Passing on Stingley for Davis would actually make me puke.. JD can’t be that dumb.. Doubtful McBride slips to the 2nd round but I’d love that pick with our 2nd
I have also paid attention to him this year. The freaking kid can only play one down and needs to suck on oxygen for 5 minutes. If you think the Jets are pissed at Becton for his shit work ethics then watch out if we take this kid
Love the trade down, but what we got in return. IMO we need more picks this year, not another 1st round pick next year. Think I like the Karlaftis pick, but would hate the Davis pick for a number of reasons. After the problems the Jets have experienced with Becton's size/weight, thankfully, I see no way on earth that they'd even consider Davis. DT is not a need, and we have glaring needs that match up with excellent prospects in this draft. Using a top 10 draft pick on a part time player is crazy imo, I don't care how talented he is. What's to say that he won't eat himself out of the league within 2 years or be injury prone like many here claim Becton is? There is now way I would ever be on board with taking Davis, even though I know he is a talented and dynamic player. At this point in the offseason, other than Harris, not a fan of the other two 2nd round picks, but at least they're positions of need. I think there are better OGs than Johnson and better TE prospects than McBride. I may eventually come around on one or both of them, but won't on Davis or settling for a 1st round pick next year instead of getting more picks in this draft.
I see that basically everyone hates the idea of drafting Jordan Davis. I am aware of the questions about the size and motor and snap count… But on the flip side of the coin, would he not completely change the nature of the DL? 1. If he plays next to Quinnen Williams, you can’t design a run game that consistently double teams both players. The only way to do it is to use TE’s for 1 v 1 blocks on DE’s, so obviously that can’t be a foundational part of the offensive scheme. 2. The Jets play Nickel as a Base. They need to get better at stopping the run with the DL, and obviously drafting Davis isn’t the only way but it is the fastest way. 3. If the Jets can be better at forcing down and long situations, the pass rush can do it’s job most effectively. I’m not the champion of Jordan Davis now, but I can see a way in which he could have a massive impact on the Saleh/Ulbricht defense, particularly in improving it’s greatest flaw from 2021: stopping the run. Anybody have any other thoughts on Davis aside from motor?
What more does Washington possess to give this year? They gave their 1st and 2nd already so would you really rather have a 3rd round pick this year over a 1st in 2023? It seems like you’re really undervaluing future picks, especially since there is always the chance they have a rough year with a rookie QB and it could be another top 10-15 pick.
Got absolutely no problem with the return on the trade and getting future picks. After all how many rookies do you want to start each year? 6 or 7 again. 5 picks in the top 45 is plenty to add a really good talent base to the roster and then two first rounders again next year means another talent influx. I prefer this to overloading in a single year again with all the issues starting tons of rookies brings. Like everyone else I hate the IDL pick. Get the reasoning behind it but isn't this a day 3 pick need or FA even?
I can see the thought process for Davis, even if I wouldn't agree with the selection. Davis is an elite run defender, a skill that will most likely translate well to the NFL level primarily due to his size and hand strength, but I'm not sure if I see a 3-down IDL in him. I would hate the idea of drafting a guy in the top 10 that will get subbed-out with JFM or Sheldon Rankins on passing downs. My biggest argument against Davis would be opportunity cost. Do you want to sink a top 10 pick into a guy like him, or get 75% of him in a guy you can draft on Day 2-3? If you want someone similar to Davis, Travis Jones from UConn could fit that bill and will most likely be available in the late 2nd-early 3rd round range. EDIT: Forgot to comment on the trade and our picks. Love the trade, I think JD would push for more, especially if WFT is gunning for Pickett, but I think the return you got is really good. To your point, that could be another SEA situation. I would be ecstatic if Karlaftis fell to 10. He and Lawson would be a great 1-2 punch at EDGE. Love the 2nd's too. McBride, Zion, and Harris would all be instant starters and improve some of our biggest holes as rookies.
A general question: Are people against IDL in the first in general, or people against Jordan Davis? Would anyone have been more comfortable with DeMarvin Leal?
Would you rather have Nakobe Dean at pick 11 or Christian Harris in the 2nd? And would you consider DeMarvin Leal or are set against IDL in the 1st in general?
It's a fair question. From my point of view, and I absolutely accept that I know very little, it is a bit of both. I definitely don't think a run stuffing 2 down space eater seems very good value at that spot with so many other needs. If you pick him he needs to be either exceptional or be able to do more than that. Preferably both. That's not to say that this isn't a need to be addressed at some point. Then there's the history in the last decade of first round picks to consider. I don't think that necessarily matters if you are sure about the guy but there is going to be a lot of pressure on the pick to perform at a high level immediately because of it.
I’m never against a position group in any round for the most part. I just don’t think Davis has a long successful NFL future ahead of him. He’s obviously been better but he reminds me a bit of A’shawn Robinson from Alabama some years back. Mountain of a man that pushed SEC guards around for three years. Not that successful in the NFL. I know virtually nothing about Leal individually. What I do know is A&M had one of the best fronts in college football last year so I’m sure he has to be good.
I think drafting with influence of previous regime’s picks is a huge mistake. Any public perception is ultimately forgotten as soon as you start winning so you should follow your process and basically ignore the fans until ultimately you win or lose. I’ve been a proponent of positional value for a long time, but I’ve developed (I think) my understanding of the Draft process over the last couple of years. I think positional value is a piece of the puzzle. The other pieces are overall positional availability of the draft, team need, and particularly rare skills. Hamilton at his height or Davis at his size, you cannot find those players later. Treylon Burks might fall into that category… I do think his refinement is lacking but I could be talked into him
i would not use a 1st on a run stuffer. too many other needs. More interested in someone truly disruptive on D, or electric on O where is Snacks 2.0 when you need him?
Like the trade if its there, but I can't endorse an IDL at 11 like Davis. Based on how your mock went, I'd do the trade you mocked with the Eagles with the gamble that Dean or Linderbaum is there at 15.
The thing with taking an IDL that early is you can find a guy who does 80% of what Davis does at 20% of the cost later in the draft or in FA. Run stuffing IDL's aren't that hard to find. He may be a better one than most but the cost/reward just isn't there at 11 overall.
