Young Rogers sat on the bench, but ZW is getting valuable experience and learning. Hopefully, he'll improve dramatically and quickly.
If anyone thinks our oline is bad now, wait till we're paying Zack 45 a yr. If the only way Z can be avg is with a top 5 oline, somethings gotta give. I'm still pulling for the kid and think he's gonna figure this out and end up being a top 10 (at least) QB but man o man he's making it tough.
Mediocrity is a lot better than what we've experienced over the last five years. Fitz was a backup pressed into service when Geno got clocked. McCown was a 39 year old joke hired to tank not win, so those are terrible examples. However, there have been some FA QB in recent years that could have given the Jets a modicum of respectability, for example: Nick Foles or Josh Freeman to name two. Both of these guys, while not Bradyesque, could have put up decent enough numbers to get the Jets into a playoff. The difference between my view and yours is that if Wilson doesn't pan out, I don't believe this ownership is capable of putting together a management and coaching team to win a SB. You would clear the table and start all over again and that's okay if you have the stomach for more failure. I don't anymore.
He's just pointing out that play in games at the end of the season when both teams are likely to be sandbagging for various reasons is not a compelling view of the QB's future potential. Sanchez, Geno and Darnold all put together nice runs at the end of seasons that didn't indicate anything about their future potential. The funny thing is I think Geno was actually the most talented of all the young QB's the Jets have tried out in the last decade. He wasn't a leader and so he couldn't start in the NFL but his tools were better than Sanchez, Darnold or Wilson's.
The Jets can't really afford to just give up on installing the offense for the rest of the season. They have too much invested across the board here in other resources, including the OC and his staff. If Zach can make a show of it then keep playing him and if he can't it is time to shut him down and let somebody else work the offensive installation.
I hope your right cval. And kudos for the positive waves. My guess is that he will not end up being special in the sense that he's no Peyton, no Brees, Brady, Elway, Rodgers or any other all time great. But while that might be slightly disappointing and we're probably not looking at multiple Zach Wilson super bowls thats OK. Chances are against that with any player anyway. They only hand out so many Super Bowls and Hall of Fame tickets. Not everyone gets one. He's obviously a earnest hard working kid, he obviously has some significant athletic and throwing ability, and despite looking like the kid up the street you hired to mow your lawn I've been impressed thus far with his toughness. He's no pansy. I've seen him make a pretty impressive tackle, keep his head up and calm while his helmet gets ripped off, and a few other instances. You can't fake that stuff. But he's now not only the "prospect" but the incumbent. He's on the payroll. Thing to do now, which is what we spectacularly failed with on Darnold, is to give him as much help as we can and make the best of it. I'm sure he's going to improve, even if only to maybe Kirk Cousins/Dave Krieg/Andy Dalton levels. Give him every chance you can going forward to figure it out and we'll see where it goes. Despite now being pretty positive he's no all time great in the making I also see pretty much zero chance of him being a total failure that is out of the league 5 years from now. I think if supported he can at LEAST get the Jets to a competitive level where we get some meaningful December games and playoff appearances eventually. And as Westie pointed out above that is a hell of a lot better than things have been around here lately. Lots better.
I don't think I agree with the premise of changing the offense to suit the QB. If we do that we're basically throwing everything that LaFleur and his staff bring to the Jets out the window. I think the Jets need to decide whether or not Zach Wilson can play in the scheme they want to run. If not they need to put one of the many other QB's (all 3 Jets backups so far) who can run it in and figure out how to best profit from Wilson's demise. If they do think he can run it then they should run it until he proves he can't and then figure out how to profit from Wilson's demise. The #2 pick is a sunk cost but it should not be allowed to sink the installation of the new offense. People will get this in a year but by then we'll have another year's investment in what is likely a lost cause and we'll be set back. It's up to the Jets to prevent that setback.
What I'd love to know is whether LaFleur really wanted Wilson, or if he was overruled by Saleh, Douglas, or the Johnsons.
It's really hard to look at the performance of a college QB playing against lesser competition and project his path in the pros. There was no reason to believe that Zach Wilson couldn't make the short and medium range throws under pressure. Then he shows up and he can't make them. You do what you can to help him out and if he still can't make them reliably you move on. It's what a good NFL team does.
Yes, yes indeed. If Pickett is sitting there when the Jets pick, JD will get a haul. Just salivating at the thought. Imagine dealing with the Giants and getting #6 + #39 + a 2023 1st for #4 and #156? Or something else even nicer? Could be absolutely savage. Definitely sad that this Jets fan looks forward to the draft more than the season.
Fan base is worried because Wilson is making the same exact poor decisions Darnold was, and still is, making.
