Robert Saleh comments on Wilson’s struggles

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  1. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    This is what majority of rookie QBs need, even Wilson started to relax in second half when Jets ran ball more. They don’t need to have bulk of offensive responsibilities on their shoulders, let them master the game a little bit at a time, there is way too much to learn and expecting a 7 game starter to carry team is recipe for disaster.
     
  2. K'OB

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    You read the bit where I said 'not an excuse as such, as he has been shit himself' right? lol I couldn't have been more damning.

    Our OL is still poor and needs to improve whoever the QB is, take a look at the free hit that Flacco got and add that to the ones Wilson has taken, I want to say White as well, sure he got a real bad free hit but the memory isn't the best lol
     
  3. NoodleArm

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    What else can Saleh say? Ability to play in structure seems like something that they should have considered before drafting Wilson. That said, he’s here now, and the Jets have to see what he’s got. They can evaluate, when the season is over, if he’s Josh Rosen or a foundation for the future.
     
  4. WalterMichaels

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    Yes, this offense has proven it could move the ball with a professional QB at the helm. The talent will only improve next year. Jimmy G is an upgrade to White/Flacco and knows LaFleur’s system.

    The Jets can’t trade or cut Wilson (massive cap hit) so he’s on the team regardless. Let Zach compete with White for backup job and if he loses they can Hackenberg him.
     
  5. All Gas No Shake

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    they picked up saquans fifth year option
     
  6. legler82

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    I expected the normal rookie struggles. I just didn’t expect this level of accuracy & ball placement issues. I doubt the coach staff anticipated this either. That’s the part that has me concerned. I thought we were getting young Rodgers not young Allen w/o the physicality and running ability. I think we all can agree that accuracy was the last thing we probably thought we’d be frustrated with at this point of his development.
     
  7. REVISion

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    I think Wilson basically developed the yips after being under so much pressure the first couple games. Not great.

    I blame Wilson and also the coaching staff for not realizing it'd be a bad idea to throw a rookie QB out there behind an atrocious line. We all remember the nonstop reports out of training camp about how bad the OL was in pass protection. The OL has improved a lot since those first few games but the damage was already done at that point.
     
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  8. legler82

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    That could be it and let’s hope it is. I’ll just say that I’ve never been impressed with his ball placement. And Matt Waldman, who I respect, raised concerns about his short term accuracy predraft. I thought he was blowing it a bit out of proportion but he’s looking like a fortune teller 6 games in. He might just be one of those guys that are streaky with their accuracy like Foles & Eli. The type that needs to get into some sort of rhythm. We’ll see how it plays out.
     
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  9. NCJetsfan

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    Great post! I couldn't possibly agree more. It is sad and frustrating how ignorant some fans/posters are. They are truly clueless.
     
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    The reactions are WAAAAAAAAAAAY over the top! Jets fans need to watch film of Wilson in college. He was accurate, poised and played the position at an extremely high level. One doesn't lose those abliities once one has them. They can be short-circuited for a while when a player is having to think too much, and loses confidence, but the ability is there. Not every player develops at the same rate. When a QB holds the ball too long and takes sacks it's because he's having trouble reading the D, no receivers are open, or he's lost confidence. That happens with rookie QBs. It takes time. It's not too much for Wilson. He just needs time and patience.

    Darnold still had excuses made for him when he was traded to the Panthers, so it's not like Zach is getting a free ride. The thing is, fans need to learn to think and use their brains instead of having knee-jerk reactions. Zach is not responsible for lal the other failed Jets' QBs. One has to look at each player anew, and not tie him to those who came before.

    It's fine to have doubts, but the same things don't have to be repeated ad infinitum. The horse is well past dead.
     
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    ROFLMAO!!! Dude you need to get a clue.
     
  12. westiedog1

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    That was not the preseason buildup that fans were subjected to, so it's understandable that there is disappointment. Nevertheless, there's the old saying about when you make your bed you have to lie in it. Therefore I agree, the Jets have to play this hand out to see what they have in Wilson. However, three years down the road, if Wilson hasn't established himself as our FQB, then I'm going to call for going the veteran QB route because I'm tired of the constant losing.
     
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    NC, he has and is NOT (sorry missed this in reread) playing well and it's not the CS anymore or OL its him. As for his accuracy, one of the other posters mentioned about BYU and its competition... maybe just maybe the kid is good enough in NFL. Not saying he isn't but to date he hasn't proven he is either... esp. when JAGs come in and run the O effortless and efficiently and he can't then it's on him. just saying
     
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  14. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Thatta boy. Put down people with different opinions than your own.
     
  15. HomeoftheJets

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    Russell Wilson can throw from the pocket as well as roll out. If you can't throw from the pocket, you won't get very far rolling out all the time.
     
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    JJ and white stood in the pocket and took hits to deliver big plays. wilson isn't. he's bailing and scrambling and then the opportunity is gone. also missing carter hurts a lot. he made a lot of YAC for mike white in his 400 yard game.
     
  17. JetsUK

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    one of the main knocks on Wilson in the draft process was that he never played the position at a high level - he just played well against relatively poor teams - now he is having to face pro-level defenses the results are what they are - hopefully he will improve over time (but I doubt it)
     
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    Zach Wilson has looked disappointing so far. Period. I suspect Zach himself is disappointed in how things have gone thus far. Probably even more than any of us.

    But I don't see how expressing concern that your most important and highly touted player hasn't done well so far is cause to be denigrated, called clueless, and accused of wanting throw him under the bus or being happy he's failing. Sheezus. To be honest I'm not sure how anybody who cares about the Jets fortunes could NOT be at least slightly concerned at the moment. And if you aren't at least slightly concerned I would suspect that is due pretty much completely to hope and blind faith, and not any tangible evidence that we've actually seen in game performance so far.

    And also as an aside.... that REVISion touched on. As a Jets fan I don't think I ever want to freaking hear again that the offensive line never worked together in preseason. That "strategy" has been a complete failure the last few seasons from the Kalil/Osemele days right into the game 1 disa-freaking-ray Zach had to deal with this season. And Becton got injured and put out almost immediately anyway. A big part of offensive line play is familiarity/teamwork/comfort with your other guys. Freaking play 'em and get that going early.
     
  19. WalterMichaels

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    I actually would respect the hell out of Saleh if he benched ZW for the rest of the season. I think he’d get a lot of cred in the locker room and around the league.

    Marvin Jones said it perfectly on Rich Cimini’s pod yesterday. “Don’t care if you are a rookie, you are being paid to do a job-if you ain’t doing it They going to find someone else”
     
  20. Brook!

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    Sometimes you make it impossible to defend you NC. Come on man. Have some respect for posters with different opinions than yours.
     
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