Training Camp News and Tweets #2

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    It's GREAT!!!!!
     
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    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    This is where we disagree. IMO SOJ means doing things the same way that never works, yet expecting a different result. We've had idiots for owners since Werblin. Those idiots have in turn hired idiots as GMs who had no clue how to evaluate talent or build a team. Rather than hiring an experienced, knowledgeable football man and allowing him to run the team, they tried to make the big decisions themselves. Then to top it off, they hired certifiable idiots as HCs who couldn't coach. Between those idiotic GMs and HCs they created the "bad luck" that we've had with bad draft picks, bad FA signings, turning over the roster to change schemes/systems so that there has been a continuous carousel of change every few years.

    That cycle has been broken with the hiring of JD, allowing JD to hire the new HC, and the Johnsons finally stepping back and allowing JD to basically run the team and make the important decisions. He made the right hire in Saleh, and has added a ton of talent. Things are in the process of changing. Injuries happen. We can't throw up our arms and quit. We just have to soldier through and be tougher than the adversity that comes our way. With Saleh and JD, we will be. We WILL get to where we want to be. It may not happen as quickly as we want due to injuries and other things that arise, but we are on our way. I have no doubts about it.
     
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  3. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Rez Ryan got us to two Championship games.

    Until Saleh does the same... ;)
     
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  4. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    There's no fucking way Ralebird is Cimini.


    Cimini has a personality... :confused:
     
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  5. NCJetsfan

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    Gotta disagree with you. Luck is a byproduct of opportunity and preparation. One creates one's own good or bad luck with the decisions and actions one makes. We wound up having bad luck with Sam getting mono, because our idiot owners hired an incompetent boob in Mike McCagnan who eschews taking Mahomes or Watson, and instead takes a snot-nosed kid who has only been playing QB 3 years and who still doesn't know how to play the position, then Mac doesn't fix the OL, build around Sam, or acquire a quality veteran QB, and then throws Sam to the wolves.

    The chances are that Darnold would never have succeeded in this league unless he went to a team like GB or KC where there were intelligent people making the decisions who would have coached him up and let him sit for a couple of years behind a quality veteran and learn how to play the position. It starts at the top and rolls downhill. When the owners are idiots and make horrible decisions and hires, the shit is going to pile up. The difference now is that the owners finally hired a respected, competent, experienced, professional GM who knows how to evaluate talent, build a team, handle the draft and make trades, and they have stepped back and are allowing him to call the shots. That is why it is not the SOJ.
     
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    You saved me having to post this. Spot on!
     
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    Vinny in the first game, I could see. That altered the entire season in a major way. But ANY injury to good player is SOJ? I don't think so. Basically anything bad you attribute to SOJ, which I just don't think is true. Finally a competent GM, respectable HC, exciting coaching staff, a QB that looks like finally an FQB, that's not SOJ. Yes, even if one of the best defensive players got injured.
     
  8. Ralebird

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    When you stop being ridiculous, return to reality and support anything you claim with facts and quotes the conversation can continue but until then you're just being foolish. Stop making things up and put up the quotes. Where are the similarities between what I wrote and what Hughes, Kiper or Cimini wrote? Are you really that stupid? Are we all the same person? How is it that after posting 1000 times a year for the past nine years a genius like you can create this fantasy, and probably more important to your psychiatrist, why? Find a single post where I said do not draft Wilson or that drafting him would be a mistake. You could also show where I have started an argument with anyone, unless simply offering a different opinion now qualifies. At first I thought you guys were just joking, but you really have gone off the deep end and made very stupid, empty claims.

    Once again - put up or shut up!
     
  9. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    GFY - change your own name to Dumbass.
     
  10. Jets-N-Terps

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    not just any injury to a good player, a season ending injury to the "top free agent" that Joe Douglas signed...oh yeah and by the way, he was let go because of...wait for it...Injury history.
     
  11. Jets81

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    How about rainbow lollipops?

    I used to make a killing when I was in grammar school selling these for a buck a piece:

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    It was a great business model. The customers were trapped in a room with me for about 7 hours a day. They had to eat at some point and were all too happy to part with some of their lunch money. Some parents put a buck in their kids packed lunch just to buy one. Hopefully I didn’t put anyone on the path to becoming a sugar fiend.

    Regarding football, I think the Jets are going suck this year where their record is concerned. They look bad in practice and they’ll probably look worse at full speed. They’re already riddled with injuries and have an inexperienced group of players/starters who probably wouldn’t start on a lot of others teams. I like letting the young guys play and get experience. If it’s going to happen this is clearly the season to do it. Hopefully they won’t get steamrolled every week.

    In my opinion the whole season rides on the OL. They strung together some good protection here and there but for the most part it sounded like they were horrendous - at least if the sacks/pressure are any indication.

    Zach might be able to handle a baptism by fire but Saleh said this team would help lift him up. Hopefully it won’t be off the ground after every snap.
     
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    Not that PFF's stats really reflect how the players play, but it's interesting that it would seem that the Jets DBs are better than others think. It's also interesting that neither Maye, nor Hall, nor Austin, nor Dunn, nor Pinnock are on this list.
     
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    You're not doing this right. Just ignore history and reality, put on the blinders, the green tinted shades and follow along the yellow brick road to the place where seldom is heard a discouraging word and the skies are not cloudy all day. And when there's a five or less in the "W" column in January blame it on negativity, injuries, and unforeseeable misfortune - everything is really going to be wonderful..
     
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    troll post
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    Yes, true, and you can position Lawson's loss as being terrible, but JD's philosophy is to build around draft and supplement with FAs. So, the fact he was a top free agent and then lost for the season doesn't mean it's SOJ. The approach is different now. This year main focus in on developing Zach Wilson. All premium picks were offense until 5th round I think. Yes, it would be great to have a pass rusher of his caliber, but even without him, the main focus doesn't change. I think we will still end up winning 6-7 games and Zach develops into FQB. Then at least play-offs contention next year. It's a process which will take a couple of more years, and loss of Lawson is not going to stop it.
     
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    1. Your reactions are unexpected--most times someone says "I don't care what you think" or "I wish I had his job" or something witty--you are taking this very personally

    2. You post very early in the morning--the time journalists and other media entertainers have to get up

    3. You have better-than-average verbal ability. I can't judge "very high" but you write at a higher level than most

    4. Ralebird itself is a name that shows verbal acuity imo. I would think its a derivation of rail bird which in that case, would indicate the person is a horse-racing fan.

    Here's a post Cimini wrote on horse-racing for espn--

    https://www.espn.com/horse-racing/s...fert-mike-smith-top-tier-horse-racing-legends
     
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    PFF might want to learn that some of those players havent played a down in the NFL, so how can they have a "score" already?
     
  18. SOJAZ

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    I think your both right.... take it form SOJAZ, smile gents!
     
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    Fixed it for you ;)
     
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    I can see you are really looking forward to the season!
     
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