No problem paying kickers. Ravens and chiefs have great kickers and they have great QBs. Having a solid 3pointer around can swing games and really help with getting points on the board. Sick and tiered of F'ing about with kickers like their pointless to the game of football. Sent from my M2007J20CG using Tapatalk
I heard that the Racine Raiders offered him a job as water boy, picking up the dirty jocks after practice and emptying the trash cans.
The period between the hiring of Gase, to the keeping of Mac for one more draft before he was fired was the most embarrassing Jet period ever IMO. It set JD back one full draft thanks to that cluster fuck approach. Darkest period in Jets history.
The thing to remember however, is that if Mac had been fired prior to the draft, that we may not have JD as our GM. During that offseason, two teams asked the Eagles permission to interview JD and were turned down. I see no reason to think that they would have let the Jets talk to Douglas early enough to enable us to hire him before the draft. I may be mistaken, but I think Gase played a part in getting JD to the Jets. I agree that it was stupid to hire Gase, screwed up timing to fire the GM, and a cluster fuck of a way to do things, but in this case, two wrongs did make a right. It was probably just dumb luck, but the hand of Providence may have been involved. The important thing is that JD is our GM and our future has not looked brighter since the drafting of Joe Willie Namath.
That bark needs to be aimed higher. It was a NO from above. Remember, this is a top down when it comes to finances....
Turns out he's a motivational speaker now. At least provided someone's actually hired him to speak, would have to be someone equally bad at managing money. https://www.athletespeakers.com/speaker/mike-maccagnan
Ah yes, I can see him now, Mac walking slowly to the pulpit with a cup of coffee on his hand, like Jethro on NCIS, doing a post mortem as to who really killed this team.
I never understood the "Don't Pay Kickers" mentality. If anybody on a football team is going to put points on the board, the Kicker is going to put points on the board. On a low scoring team, they'll be putting up most of the points, on a high scoring team, they're going to be putting up better than 1/7th of the points. Yet people lose their shit if their team is considering paying their kicker as much as their backup left guard... Nobody lost their shit because we paid Bradley McDougald 3.6M. I would have taken even a watered-down version of Meyers over an old slow safety for those dollars.
A motivational speaker? ROFLMAO!!! With his bland personality and lack of knowledge? Holy cow! I knew things had gotten crazy in the US, but not that crazy.
Of all of MacMoron's stupid moves with the jets, the worst was his trade with the Colts to give them a 1st round pick and 3 second round picks just to move up 3 spots in the 2018 draft. He did this a month BEFORE the draft, not knowing for sure who would be there. He said he was positioning to take one of the top 3 QBs--Mayfield, Darnold or Josh Rosen. While the Browns took Mayfield, the Giants took Barkley. What if the Giants had taken Darnold (or traded with someone else and they took Darnold)? MacCagnan would have likely grabbed QB Josh Rosen-- yes, the same guy was just released Monday by the 49ers, his fourth team in four years. A first round pick AND three second rounders for Rosen? It almost happened. I would never, ever, had given up that MUCH draft capital to move up just three spots without knowing for sure who would be there. Thank God we have Douglas.
Tom, I'm pretty certain that it's been documented that Mac traded up to get Mayfield. He supposedly liked Mayfield the best. It's also been said that he didn't Darnold would be available, as he thought Darnold would go to the Browns at #1, and he would be happy with Darnold. Rosen was never a serious consideraton.
Curious as to how it was "documented" that Mac made the ridiculous move primarily to get Mayfield. Did MacCagnan put that in writing? Anyway, if he made that ridiculous trade to get Mayfield, that just underscores my point that he traded the farm with no guarantee the player he wanted would be at that spot (and he wasn't). That is why most GMs would make a trade like that while on the clock, not a month before the draft. Besides that, no one has more anti-Darnold than you. Do you now think Sam was worth that massive haul?
No, I don't think he was worth that haul. I never even intimated that he was and have been pretty clear that I now think that Mac was an awful GM. I was just pointing out that he really liked both Mayfield and Darnold and would have been happy with either. If he was competent and thought that way, then I can't trash him too badly for the move. The Jets desperately needed a QB and he should have taken one of Mahomes and Watson in the previous draft where he didn't have to trade up. Also, he got the trade up cheaper doing it a month early than he would have just prior to or during the draft. Then it almost certainly would have cost a 1st round pick or two. It could have been worse. That said, I really didn't like Rosen or Darnold and wanted Baker. If it's true that he really wanted Baker, then he was still dumb to trade up without knowing for certain that he'd get him. He was also stupid for not drafting OL and offensive playmakers to help Darnold succeed.
I get the displeasure with the trade up for Sam. But scared money doesn't make money. Sometimes you just gotta roll the dice.
Gotta disagree on this one Tom. The ABSOLUTE WORST thing Macc ever did was to pass on Mahomes and Watson in favor of taking Adams. That essentially forced him to make the trade that you hated. And that cost him the first and 3 2nds that could've been used to upgrade the talent. As for that trade, I still don't think by itself it was bad, but Macc's assessment of the QBs was. TBF, there were a lot of GMs and scouts who were fooled by that QB class. From my own assessment, I didn't think any of them were as good as Mahomes certainly, and Watson probably, which is again why I still think that's one of the worst mistakes in Jets history. But within that class, I thought Rosen was the best prospect, although not for the Jets with their lousy OL. Behind him I thought Darnold had the tools but was concerned about his mechanics, both his footwork and his lengthy arm motion, two things that he hasn't improved on (and may never). I really thought Allen was "boom or bust", and thought his accuracy issues were almost terminal, and it's a credit to him and his CS that they've been able to make him into a top QB. All this is to say, I'm not infallible, but I can sure see better than Maccagnan ever did.
