Deshaun Watson Mega Thread (Volume 3)

Discussion in 'National Football League' started by Brook!, Feb 5, 2021.

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What would you give up for Watson?

  1. #2 pick in 2021 Draft Only

    7.9%
  2. #2 pick plus another 1st Rounder

    24.6%
  3. #2 pick plus 2 other 1st Rounders

    34.1%
  4. #2 pick plus 3 other 1st Rounders

    5.6%
  5. To Hell with Watson. Stay put

    27.8%
  1. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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    Lol exactly. I was a little hyperbolic. But the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Bucs had probaly 2 or 3 HoFs each and maybe another 2-3 All Pros.

    Off the top of my head Ravens had Lewis and Woodson (HoF) and Adams, Burnett and Boulware (AP)

    Bucs had Sapp and Brooks (HoF) and Barber, Rice and Lynch (AP).

    Damn, I'm sure I'm missing some also imagine half your defense being All Pro calibre players lol. I love reminding people of this when they say "Brad Johnson won a super bowl".
     
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  2. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    They don’t need a bidding war to get what they want for Watson. He’s an absolutely elite QB that a team will be willing to pay the Texans demand for whether there are 10 other teams or it is just them that wants him. The Texans have already set the price high; now they only need one team that bites. And that team isn’t going to risk not getting Watson by trying to lowball the Texans under the guise that the Texans have no other trade options available.

    if the one team that wants Watson wants him more than the Texans want to trade him, every other team in the NFL becomes absolutely irrelevant.
     
  3. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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    Just to be clear, I'm on record stating the Jets should give up whatever it takes to get Watson.

    Having said that, you're right in a sense. It only takes one team to give in to what Houston wants. But it still makes no sense to eliminate would-be suitors by waiting until after free agency/trade season starts. It's bad business. Unless they aren't planning on trading him and then some team blows then out of the water in April. I don't see any advantage in it.
     
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  4. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    I don’t mean to insinuate that they would sabotage the discussions; I just think waiting helps the Texans because it forces a team that wants Watson, and is willing to meet their demands, to do so because waiting creates the perception that they will not trade him. If a team wants Watson the worst thing for them is that they think the Texans aren’t willing to trade him if they don’t meet the price.
     
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  5. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, 5-11 isn’t impressive. That team was not a 1 win team talent wise, they have a lot of talent offensively. Bridgewater just isn’t good.
     
  6. PJ4Ever

    PJ4Ever Well-Known Member

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    To all those who voted To Hell with Watson: You wouldn’t trade the #2 pick straight up for Watson? Not even sure how that’s a position someone could take.
     
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  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Where did I say it was impressive? You're way overreacting. Yes, they have a lot of offensive talent, but defensively not so much.
     
  8. Footballgod214

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    ...but if Douglas HAD drafted Wirfs, he could now draft Penei Sowell for the left side and we'd have the NFL's top anchors for a decade+.
     
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  9. chad2coles

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    But here in bizarro world, if Douglas drafted Wirfs, he couldn't be given any credit because there's no way to know if he would have rather drafted Andrew Thomas.
     
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  10. chad2coles

    chad2coles Well-Known Member

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    I think there is a balance to this. If a team is close to the Texans’s ask, and they dont take the deal, they risk that team moving on. Unless their new gm/coach really are prepared to have Watson sit and add zero talent to their roster through the draft/free agency.
     
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  11. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    I’m sure I’m not the only one who got that alert open Watson being open to other teams because trading for him might limit the Jets ability to build a roster around him. Who came up with that rumor, someone from TGG? Patently false, but if Watson does actually believe that then maybe he shouldn’t have ever been consulted with front office matters.
     
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  13. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The guy has the second largest contract in the NFL right now.

    Really.
     
  14. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    And if we had drafted Ed Reed, maybe we have home field advantage with his nine interceptions and All-Pro year and ultimately end up in the Super Bowl.
     
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  15. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    And would count only $10 mil against the cap this year. Still a no brainer trade if you can keep one of 23 or 34.
     
  16. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking the same thing when I read it.

    The bigger concern is how he even thinks that is the case when evaluating our picks and cap. Does he not realize the capital we have?
     
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  17. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The guy has the largest contract in the NFL from 2022-2024.
     
  18. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    He’d have cap hits around $35 mil for the two years after this one. That puts him right with Mahomes and Wilson, which is where he should be.
     
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  19. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    It’s so clearly just spin from someone because no one actually thinks we wouldn’t be able to build a team with the money we have and the picks we’d still have.
     
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  20. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    This thread lays out pretty specifically why claiming the Jets can’t build around Watson if they trade a bunch of picks for him is stupid. (open in Twitter and read the full thread)

     
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