Here's a great Brother From Another video. While I don't agree with giving up Q, Michael Smith is one of the few national writers who is totally in tune with the details of how well situated the Jets actually are. Also, keep in mind that he's friends with Deshaun, so him saying he doesn't think the Jets are Watson's preference, but that he loves NYC (implying that he'd accept a trade here) is probably legit.
that's fair as well. it's not about having a better chance at a better QB it's about picking the right one.
Guys. Shall we still keep a seperate Watson thread or merge it with Darnold, Fields, Trask thread? What do crowd think?
Separate please. The other thread has some good insights on prospects, which will get swallowed with all Watson hopes posts. IF we do get Watson eventually, we can close that one, since no one will care about Fields, Wilson, etc...
The blocking scheme is best suited for mobile undersized tackles who can cover space relatively quickly. It was always the way in Denver, it's been the way everywhere Kyle Shanahan has gone, etc. If anything, Becton is oversized. Yes, very athletic, but not suited for the mobility required for an entire game. Edit: as an example, Becton's listed playing weight this year is 50lbs heavier than any OL currently on the 49ers roster right now.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your point, but this is kind of silly. Depending on his current weight, Becton might be the second heaviest player in the NFL after only Trent Brown. NFL teams are required to carry at least 8 OL, so we're talking him being the #2 heaviest player in a pool of at least 256 guys. It's not like there is a group of tackles in Becton's weight category that Shanahan dismissed from consideration in SF - Becton is just a really unique physical specimen in the league. You can compare him to pretty much ANY roster in the NFL, regardless of the system they run, and get similar conclusions. Hell, compare him to the Jets themselves: Becton is at least 41 lbs heavier than any other lineman on New York's roster (Fant, 322 lbs). After Fant, there's no one within 53 lbs of him amongst the 10 other OL on the Jets roster.
He has been known to do exactly that. I don't have specifics about what he did to shape the line in SF but the fact that they all hover around 300lbs seems to contradict your statement. https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/01/31/kyle-shanahan-offense-san-francisco-49ers-super-bowl-liv
At the end of the vid when the Bald guy said something doesn’t smell right and the whole story will reveal itself. I’ve been feeling the same thing.. so their beat reporter thinks 2 1s + 2 2s + Q hmmmm that’s a big price. I just think it’s too much
Nobody is trading for a 28 year-old MLB that has a monstrous cap hit (in a year where the cap is decreasing) and hasn't played in 2 seasons.
At this age, yeah kinda. If he's truly a freak of nature then maybe he can do it, we've seen crazier things in the NFL. It'll surprise me if he can though.
I'd hope there's a blend of styles to still run some power behind the big boy. It'll be interesting to see how he adjusts, but you're point is certainly valid. We ran wider zone blocking schemes in high school because our center was 6'1" 150 pound string bean and we were all undersized but he could beat his man to the spot and just shield him making the back choose the lane to where ever the leverage was. Bad example cause it's high school but zone blocking is all about leverage and not about moving people. Get in front of the player and let his momentum carry him to where ever he wants to go and just move him that way. It's why you see so many tackles and linebackers shoot gaps against the scheme and if they're not Like Kuechly they overrun the play and leave a gaping seam. There's no replacing his pass blocking though. And hopefully baby LaFleur is smart enough to know that on third and two or less we can run power left, pull the backside guard and let him fucking destroy the defensive tackle on a down block.
That's fair, though quote is almost assuredly about guards and centers. It's really tough to be a great tackle in the NFL these days at 300 lbs no matter how athletic you are. If you look at the actual pool of players in the NFL you get data like this from 2018: https://globalsportmatters.com/health/2018/08/07/nfl-linemen-contend-post-football-pounds/ Shanahan made the big trade for Trent Williams just 9 months ago, who clocks in at 320 lbs. After his injuries, the 49ers starters this year were LT- Skule, 315 lbs RT - McGlinchy, 310 lbs Some of the best tackles in the NFL coming into this year: Schwartz - 320 Ramczyk - 314 Bakhtiari - 310 Stanley - 315 Armstead - 304 Johnson - 317 T. Smith - 320 Aaaaand now I'm down a useless rabbit hole on the internet. Basically though, there isn't some pool of Becton-sized players that Shanahan is excluding - they just largely don't exist. In fact, the tackles on the 49ers are league average in size. I definitely see him wanting quicker, more athletic guys like you pointed out, and considering how athletic Becton is, I'm curious if he could actually work (and hold up) in a zone blocking scheme. I have my doubts based on the injuries we saw this year. I said it in my initial post that I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with your point about him working, I just don't think Becton's massive size alone, or how he compares to the 49ers current linemen weights, is an indictment. Mekhai is an outlier in the NFL, both in his size and his abilities, and the 49ers currently utilize standard sized tackles in Shanahan's system.
We have seen Becton hit the second level with some burners and throw linebackers around too, I personally am not worried about him not fitting within the scheme at all.
It's not going to be an issue of weight or ability to get out on the edge in the scheme to rip and run. He can do it as he's quick enough and has good feet. His issue is going to be maintaining a low enough pad level at his height and weight to be good at it while he's moving. He's so damn powerful that he literally just bowls guys over but he does get high in his run blocking sets because he's strong enough that it doesn't really matter. That's not the way this scheme operates. The idea is to drop step and get the defense running wide so that they overrun the play and create a seam. If you gain leverage on the front side then the back should run the play front side and take the open lane. If you lose leverage, push him outside and let his momentum push him away from the play. But the key is to beat him to the first spot and get hands on to shield him away from the play and let the leverage determine your block. Also - this should be rectified with a full off-season but conditioning is a little bit of a concern. He's a big fucking guy and there's definitely more activity.
