squash all the talk about Jets needing playmakers!!

Add Coles, Houston, Rhodes, Robertson, and Mangold to the overral list. We have plenty.

 

I agree with your assessment but I still think the Jets need to add a little more speed to the WR corps. Coles, Cotchery, Smith are all nitty-gritty solid players but the Jets need a home-run threat with a little size if possible. A little more consistancy from the TE spot would help too...... a 'playmaker' can also be defined as a player who can take it to the house at any given time. We know Leon can do it and so can Miller on kick returns. Who else?

 

I agree. The very notion of a "playmaker" underestimates the importance of EVERYONE in the unit doing their jobs. I think the Jets success this year is a TEAM effort...and plays get made.

Shockey, Burress, and Tiki are all widely considered better "playmakers" than anyone the Jets have on their roster, and yet their TEAM is losing. "Playmakers"--in the sense that most people think of them--are over rated.

That said, I wouldn't mind a 1,500 yard RB. But I'll take a winning TEAM above all.

 

The Jets biggest need going into the offseason is a top flight Rb..

 

This playmaker talk is nonsense. You win in the NFL by not having any glaring holes on your roster and by executing.

Quite simply, the Jets need an above average running back who can carry the load, and they could use a tight end with slightly more ability to get open than Chris Baker. Aside from that, they are in a very nice position.

-X-

 

Playmakers, shmaymakers. What the jets need is to continue stockpiling high quality, high motor guys who buy into the system. Name a playmaker on the Pats run? Deion Branch....look at him in Seattle. Dillon?....solid but unspectacular that year they won.

 

Definitely. We have developede and reared good talent and play-makers this year. That is because we have a great CS.

I really think it is as you said, we just need to get better at a few more spots to support what we have in place.

For instance. If wew were thiking of getting better at back then I do not think we entertain this until the third round of the draft this spring and I think we go for size (i.e. the Beattis type of back). We need a true punisher back there. That way Leon gets better.

We need some more beef on the line - O and D, but Drob still plays on this team. He is finally starting to play the way he should.

 

We've always had some playmakers we just need but they aren't flashy. Plus I think people confuse playmaker with a guy who can take over a game and we don't have many of those really. But that's OK, what we do have is a group of guys who can beat you. Much harder to cover 3 guys then 1.

We do need to improve in some areas so that if Chad has a bad game the rest of the team can play better to pick up the slack. To me that's the only thing truly missing. When he's on (or at least playing OK) we have a shot.

 

All the playmaker talk was what people wanted...i am one who thinks the jets DESERVE to have a guy that rushes for over 1500 yards and 10 TD. I am VERY VERY happy about how well our team is doing and obviously leon washington can take it to the house. All any of us were saying was that while we have a solid team and we win because EVERYONE does their job correctly, we dont have that player, that when not everyone is doing their job can take over and put the team on his back. Time and time again we have seen that our team needs to hit on every cylinder to win. If Chad has a bad game, we lose. Why? Because we get down the field mostly on 5 yard plays. Philip Rivers can hit 1 out of 10 passes for 9 yards and SD can easily win..why? Because they have LT who will easily rush for over 100 yards and a defensive player who leads the league in sacks while being suspended for 4 games.

All of us love this team and I love this years team because we have have the lack of playmakers and still win. But by saying that Leon is a playmaker in the likes of LT, LJ, Shaun Alexander, etc..just isnt right. We are team who wins because our coaches put our players in chances to make the plays we need to. And while we dont NEED a huge playmaker to win, some of us jets fans just want one as it seems the Jets never have had a player that is consistently in the talks for league MVP or TD champ. I dont see that there is anything wrong with that.

But for now, lets just concentrate on whats ahead as this team is fun because you have no idea who is going to step up week to week. This season has been one my most enjoyable as a jets fan and im sure many of you would agree.

 

I think that when you hear people/analysts talking about playmakers they only go by name same with the pro bowl. Since the national media hasnt heard about many of the Jets who are an intricate part of the team ie Rhodes, Miller, Washingon and others they do not reckognize them.
I'd take coles over Burress any day of the week and could make an argument hes better.

 

The Jets still need a game changing receiver or RB.. that's fact. ..

 

While I can respect that you may think we need one I don't think that's a fact. To me if you have three solid receivers you're more dangerous then a team with one "playmaker". RB may be a slightly different story because having a guy like LT is definitely a plus but those guys are rare. We had CMart and I'm a big fan of his but he was not LT even in his prime.

Most teams don't have a LT-type back and these types don't come around too often so for me it's about having a solid "team" more then anything else. Get a top notch OL and a good running back looks better. Protect the QB and give him a chance to throw and watch how much better he looks then when he's running for his life.

Right now we have 3-4 receivers who can make a big play. Coles is Coles. Cotchery has shown he has a TON of talent and can make big plays. JMac gets picked on a lot on this board but he's make some solid contributions this year and has caught two of Chad's longer (actually in the air) passes. He just has to battle more for balls and he would be a better receiver. Then you have Brad Smith who they're finally utilizing as a receiver. Give him some time to develop and he can make quite a few plays.

At RB I think absent of a LT-type RB we can have a pretty good running game with the duo of Houston/Washington. Houston can be the guy to carry the ball 20 times per game and Washington can provide that spark.

I think if the OL improves which they should by due to our two rookies having a full year under their belt, the unit (or at least most of it) having a year together, and possible upgrades of the line via FA or the draft (i.e. RT and possible RG, and a future replacement for Kendall)

Add that all together and the Jets O could be quite good. Think of it this way, sure Manning to Harrison is a dangerous duo but how many times have you seen Stokely, Dallas Clark, Wayne or some other guy make a big play when the other team has taken Harrison out of the game. To me that's why the Colts have a potent offense. If it were just Manning and Harrison the offense might still be good but probably much easier to stop too.

Just my two cents.

 

I'd say add a very good RB and a big time pass rusher and we're set.

 

Maybe we don't need a playmaker, but I don't think that's going to stop the FO from looking for a better one. I love Leon Washington, especially with what he showed this week and I believe if there were no other options next year he could handle the load. But instead why settle if you can get a guy that is a featured back and use Washington more on 3rd downs? I'd rather him be an impact role player than a servicable starter.

As far as Houston he's a good player but he's nothing special. Could we get by with him as our primary back getting 20 carries a game? Probably. But are there going to be better options available? You bet. You don't pass on getting another running back because you want to make sure Cedric Houston gets his carries.

 

adding marshawn lynch, lamarr woodley, and/or brian leonard would put this team over the top. i can not wait for this draft.