The Deshaun Watson Situation (POLL added for the potential price)

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What is the MOST you would give up to get Watson?

  1. Just the #2 pick

    24 vote(s)
    17.6%
  2. The two 1's and 3 we got from Seattle

    37 vote(s)
    27.2%
  3. The #2, Seattles first in 2022, our 1st in 2023

    55 vote(s)
    40.4%
  4. More - just get it done.

    20 vote(s)
    14.7%
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  1. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    Deshaun Watson’s marketing agent liked a tweet saying the Jets should contact his agent immediately. Obviously because of tampering they can’t but still interesting because it might dispel the idea that Watson doesn’t want to be here.

    When there’s smoke there’s fire.
     
  2. Mario

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    Will Fuller is a free agent.

    Imagine if they got Watson, Fuller and then drafted Etienne with the 23rd?
     
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  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    This is like the loser move of all time.

    The Jets roster is thin because they keep pretending that high picks don't matter.
     
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  4. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    The Jets roster is thin because Tannenbaum, Idzik, and Mac whiffed on countless FA signings and day 2 and 3 draft picks on top of drafting 5 IDL in the past 10 years in the first.
     
  5. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    I’m with you on that. The problem is Miami has the ammo to out bid 2nd overall... I could see them giving up #3 + #18. Now I think Jets would be more attractive if we did #2 and #23
     
  6. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    truth.

    That is not his marketing agent. That’s his agent agent.
     
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    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    Even better.
     
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  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    And because Mccaggnan traded 3 extra high 2nds to move up 3 slots in the draft to pick Darnold. And because the Jets traded other picks for vets over and over again to fill holes for a year or two. Then you get to the free agent signings that prevented younger players from competing on the Jets as the free agents themselves aged out. Then you get to the bad drafting.

    The Jets basically have done everything wrong over the last decade and that's how we've gotten where we are now. Making a huge deal for a QB that will leave the roster thin alongside him is the last thing the Jets need to do at this point.

    I like Deshaun Watson. He's a good QB. He just went 4-12 with the Texans, because they - like the Jets - decided to try to overload for a few seasons and the overload backfired spectacularly. They're short on future picks now and they're looking for the Jets to bail them out with a big haul of picks and players. Well, the Jets are even less suited than the Texans to support Deshaun Watson if they go out and fix the Texans talent and depth problems by creating more talent and depth problems on their own roster.

    The NFL is a crapshoot every year and the teams that have a small bankroll can't afford to spend it all in one place.

    Even a contender that was just short a QB would be ill-advised to spend most of their resources bringing in a good QB like Deshaun Watson.

    Why?

    Because the NFL is a crapshoot every year and if they got the wrong sequence of injuries, aging out among other players and failed draft picks with what they had left they'd pay for the mistake for 5 years.

    A team with a bad talent base like the Jets shouldn't even consider bundling a lot of assets to trade for one great player. That's not how you win in the NFL.
     
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    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Wow when there’s smoke there’s fire.. man this is wild.. when could this trade actually go down?
     
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    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    We can't make decisions based on what the Fins might do. We have to make decisions based on what is best for the Jets.
     
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    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Yes I agree but Watson going to the Fins isn’t exactly what’s best for the Jets either... I think if they are players we should at least drive the price up on them
     
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    The Redskins agreed to a trade for Alex Smith on January 30. We can agree to a trade with the Texans tomorrow if we wanted to, but it cannot be processed until the new league year.

    In reality, a trade will not happen until a coach is hired. It seems like Watson is really pissed so I don’t think it matters who they hire.
     
  13. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what you mean about them pretending high picks don’t matter. Elite QB play is the main component to winning in the NFL. Watson is only 25 and cost controlled for 5 more years... I don’t see your logic. I’m 100% for the slow patient build, and I have meticulous opinions on positional value in regards to using draft picks.

    This situation simply doesn’t happen in the NFL, and can’t really be equated to anything else.
     
  14. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    And that’s right after the SB?
     
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    This year the new league year starts March 17.
     
  16. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    oh lawrd we are going to beat this like a dead horse..
     
  17. NYJFOREVER

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    Going to be a long offseason on TGG with everyone beating a dead horse not changing anyone’s opinion.
     
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  18. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    No, elite QB play is not the main component.

    Elite play across the board is the key component. Having a QB in that mix is important but it is the team that needs to be able to play at an elite level or your Philip Rivers, Matthew Stafford and and Drew Brees (4 years out of 5 the Saints went 7-9 with Brees playing at a Hall of Fame level) just don't matter.

    Add Deshaun Watson to the existing Jets roster and you get 4-12 - just like he went with the Texans last year. If the Jets give up a lot of draft value to acquire Watson you're just looking at 4-7 wins a year for the forseeable future. Maybe they get one season at 10-6 with a bunch of free agent signings but then the whole thing collapses again just like it always does when the Jets make that kind of splurge.
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    @HomeoftheJets make it 250
     
  20. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Bury it, dig it back up and start beating again. Every time Watson is mentioned in the news there will be 5 more pages of this.
    I hate the off-season
     
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