This has nothing to do with Sam. He sucks. Can't think on his own. Took him 3 years to finally run with the ball. Did not want. Forget Sam. Ugh. Sewell is dominant. He tosses everyone out of his way on the first and second levels. VERY athletic. A great O-Line controls the pace of the game. It keeps the opponent's defense on the field while ours is on the sideline. Mims and Perriman become more dominant since they will have tons of time to get open. The defense needs to play for the run on every play. Play action, screen passes, running left or right is putting a ton of pressure on opposing defenses. You focus free agency mainly on fixing defensive holes. Add a LB and secondary help. Not hard with a good gm. Draft Sewell #2 *Trade Darnold for a second-round pick *Trade #25, #33 #90 for top ten pick Draft Lance Draft young RB - Resign Gore Still have a pick in every round. Let's hear you're magical plan?
Yes. QB's taken on the #1 pick outperform the field by a wide margin. The win against the Chargers probably took the Jets chances of finding a star QB in the 2021 NFL from 1/2 to 1/4 or worse - more likely 1/6. Our chances of finding a serviceable starting QB went from 2/3 to 1/3 or so.
My magical plan would be to just let Joe Douglas work along the same lines he worked this season. He's more likely to get us to 6 or 7 wins naturally than if he is forced to add talent via free agency. He's also very likely to make the right decision on the #2 pick and on a QB - which likely are separate decisions this season.
The simplest answer is that all of the QB's you listed above were much more likely to never become a good QB than a QB taken on the #2. They worked out despite having a very high failure rate because they are the survivors of all the people taken in their ranges in the NFL draft. The point on not taking a QB #2 when another QB was taken #1 is that we have a record of how often they busted and that record says they are only 35% likely to succeed - and by succeed we do not mean star QB we mean succeed in the range of starting QB to star starting QB. With the #2 pick you *must* pick somebody with a better than 35% chance to work out. You *must* pick somebody with as high a chance to succeed at a high level as possible. The #1 and #2 picks are for superstars, not for a 35% chance at a starting QB. So that's the answer as simply as I can give it. Could Joe Douglas find a star QB on the #2 pick after Lawrence is chosen on the #1? Clearly. Does he have a good chance of accomplishing that task? Clearly not.
Earlier in the year, I thought so too, but McGovern has really played well over the last month or so. I think he is going to be fine. That said, I wouldn't have a problem with taking Creed Humphrey with Seattle's pick, playing him or McGovern at OG in 2021, and then if they want, make Humphrey the C, and either keep McGovern at OG or release him following the 2021 season when his cap hit won't be so big.
Well we waited to take Sam Darnold instead of the Brinks Truck for Kirk Cousins ..Vikings are stinking it up today At least Joe D is avoiding the high priced FA trap and wants to draft the Future
You don't understand why the Jets flatlined this season. This was years in the making with bad draft after bad draft and awful free agent signing after awful free agent signing. Going into the year the Jets had one of the worst talent bases in the NFL. They had a self-absorbed head coach who saw himself as an answer for the offense instead of as the head coach. They had a defensive coordinator who had a history of fostering undisciplined play, leading to too many penalties - particularly after the ball was away and sometimes after the whistle had blown the play dead. In short the season had disaster written all over it even before their best player forced his way out of town in a post-draft trade. It had disaster written all over it before their second best player opted out for the season due to Covid-19. One draft, which is what Joe Douglas had to work with, isn't enough to fix a mess that was a decade in the making. It would have been nice if Adam Gase had gotten his head out of his ass earlier and realized that burying his nose in the playsheet wasn't helping the team. However nothing was going to make this team better than a deeply divided 4-12 train wreck. That's what you get when the HC and DC hate each other and one of them makes the mistake of going public, which Gregg Williams did near the halfway point of the season. Note that Joe Douglas didn't hire either of these guys. His contribution to the mess was largely confined to the one draft and one free agency period he had control of and neither of those were going to do a lot to impact the Jets season. We think of Douglas as having been here for 2 seasons already however he was hired after the draft in 2019 and really hasn't had that much input on the current team. When the owners hire the HC and the DC separately and the two of them can't get along - well that's a trainwreck and nothing the GM they just hired does is going to change that dynamic.
What kind of response is that? Wrong thread. Where do go from here!!! I presented a plan from this point forward that made the entire team better. Where is your top-secret plan? Just copy and paste the about drivel into the thread for old news. Maye some angry person will respond.
I don't understand posters who say things like "we need to bring in a GM who will clean house" or "a GM who will tear it down and rebuild", then criticize JD for doing exactly that. A true tear down and rebuild takes time. We've been through "competitive rebuilds" too many times. It's never worked. Build the damn house one brick at a time from the ground up.
How about we draft Sewell and trade Becton? The crazy dream scenario ofc being that we trade him to the Bengals for their #3 as they can't get Penell, need an LT for Burrow and get them to chuck in another player or pick.
You didn't address any of my points. I realize you're advocating moving on from Darnold, I disagree with you that we should trade most of our early picks to do so. This team has holes everywhere, trading up is one of the stupidest things we could do. Doing that is a big reason we're so devoid of talent in the first place. I swear our fans have 3 month memories. I think we should draft a QB at #2 and use the majority of our remaining early picks to surround him with talent on offense. Drafting two OT's in the first round back to back is overkill. Didn't you learn anything from us sinking way too much draft capital into IDL over the last decade? Those guys were considered BPA and no brainer picks at the time too. All it resulted in was us having to trade 80% of them away because we were overloaded at the position and starting absolute scrubs elsewhere because of it.
