Could Trevor Lawrence Spurn the Jags for the Jets?

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    https://jetsxfactor.com/2020/12/22/...-lawrence-can-spurn-the-jaguars-for-the-jets/

    Say it ain’t so: Trevor Lawrence can spurn the Jaguars for the Jets?
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    Robby Sabo
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    12/22/2020

    So, you’re saying there’s a chance? It’s true: Trevor Lawrence can, indeed, spurn the Jacksonville Jaguars for the New York Jets in the draft.

    Wait, so it’s actually possible that Trevor Lawrence could spurn the Jacksonville Jaguars in favor of the laughingstock known as the New York Jets?

    Of course it’s possible. In fact, it should even be discussed openly.

    Finding that exact angle somewhere in the mainstream division of sports media is a tough chore. Forget any ethical obligations to not speak on something uncommon or outlandish—something that could inadvertently hurt a particular franchise. That’s never the reason.


    Calls for Lawrence to spurn the Jets have been ringing loudly since October. Media members such as ESPN’s Mike Greenberg have even encouraged Lawrence to stay in school all because the Jets were on track for the top pick.

    Where are those same calls when it’s the Jags? Jacksonville isn’t exactly Honolulu, and the Jaguars organization doesn’t ooze a Paul Brown-type feel that has players ready to run through a brick wall.

    It’s almost as if the angle doesn’t work thanks to the low-level fandom seeping out of the Jacksonville area—a state notoriously known for its college football hoopla. The state that looks like it can’t wait to drift away from the rest of the continental United States routinely has trouble hyping up the professional sports crowd. Hell, the Miami Heat couldn’t even fill the building when LeBron James took his talents to the peninsula everybody loves to ridicule. Does Lawrence want to play professional football in a city and state that never shows up for its professional teams?

    The Jags angle just doesn’t work. The reactions wouldn’t be as strong. The passion just isn’t there as it always is when the Jets are the target of dismay.

    Usually, these folks operating with such harmful glee can get away with the double-standard. Instead of the Jags, perhaps it’s the Indianapolis Colts in the top spot, a team that sports a winning track record as of late, one that’s seen the likes of Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck walk through the doors. That comparison involving the Jets is an easy sell.

    The Jags are a different story and shouldn’t be ignored. When checking out the tale of the tape between the two franchises, one knocks off the other. Or, at the very least, what works when targeting the Jets should also be applied to the Jags.

    Is everybody actually supposed to pretend the Jags are the mightier organization from a winning perspective? The Jags have made the playoffs just seven times in their history that started in 1995. The Jets have seen the same number of playoff appearances over that time, but since 2000, the Jets’ six appearances trump the Jags’ three.

    OK, we’re not comparing Muhammad Ali to Joe Frazier here. The Glass Joe-Von Kaiser reality is apparent. (That was a Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out reference for those who didn’t follow, so click the link and quickly familiarize yourself.)

    Lawrence is a southern boy. Hailing from Knoxville, TN, and attending high school in Georgia, the kid chose Clemson, SC as his school of choice. There’s no question that Lawrence may even prefer the city of Jacksonville to New York—especially when considering the tax situation—but to not dig a little deeper would be an irresponsible move. Playing multiple home games in London, as the Jaguars initially planned to this season, doesn’t exactly align with those southern traditions (or any American football traditions, for that matter).
     
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  2. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    The theory that the Jets ruin every quarterback that comes to Florham Park, NJ is a tough one to combat. But the problem lies in the idea that they aren’t even close to the only ones with such a questionable track record.

    Blake Bortles was drafted third overall in the 2014 NFL draft. After five average-at-best seasons with the Jags, the man took his act to the Los Angeles Rams a year ago as a backup. He’s now backing up Drew Lock in Denver.

    Blaine Gabbert went 10th overall in 2011. Need we say more? He lasted just three years in Jacksonville and is now in Tampa, his fifth NFL team.

    From an ownership and front office standpoint, where’s the beef? Where is the overwhelming positive that should have Lawrence on skates en route to Florida? Shahid Khan and Tony Khan haven’t exactly lit it up since taking the helm in 2010. In fact, a very public display between former Jag Yannick Ngakoue and ownership played out this past offseason, something the Joe Douglas-led Jets brass would never participate in on Twitter.

    The Jags also are without a general manager. Trent Baalke is the interim as of this moment after David Caldwell’s firing. Caldwell did very little in his seven years there, while Douglas’s first draft class and overall vision for program building are at least apparent.

    Plus, no matter the outlandish move Jamal Adams made this past offseason, Douglas and the Jets remained stoic. It’s a business, not an emotional game of chess, and Douglas made that extremely clear following the trade that sent Adams to Seattle.

    “This is a business and you don’t take things personally,” Douglas said following the trade that sent Adams to Seattle. “Obviously there’s a reason why those things were said. I don’t take those things personally and I don’t think anyone took those things personally. You kind of understand why those things were said and I can promise you that didn’t affect any of our decision-making that happened over this last week.”

    What if somebody told you the Jags aren’t the best situation for a youngster? What if this organization is more Jet-like than the Jets themselves?


    In December 2019, it was revealed that more than 25 percent of all NFLPA grievances in the last two years came from the Jaguars organization. Tom Coughlin, the Jags’ former Executive VP of Football Operations, oversaw a program littered with trouble. It got so bad that the NFLPA wrote a letter to warn all free agents about the possibility of signing with the Jags.

    “The NFLPA took the unusual step of publicly warning free agents against signing with the Jaguars because of Coughlin’s reported disregard for player rights,” via ESPN.

    By no means should the Jets be off the hook in the player grievance regard. What happened with Kelechi Osemele is still a mystery, but to own 25 percent of all complaints is simply outrageous.

    On the field, the talent is pretty close across the board. New York might have an edge, but it’s negligible. The same can be said for future draft assets and salary-cap space this coming offseason. Douglas’s presence in New Jersey, while the Jags enter the offseason without a guy heading the operation, marks a real win for the Jets.

    Perhaps Lawrence is a kid who truly believes in himself to the point that it doesn’t matter where he ends up. Besides, the odds that he constructs any power-play is slim, especially when considering the draft’s history. An Eli Manning or John Elway situation happens but once every 15 or 20 years.

    While unlikely, it’s at least a possibility that deserves attention.

    The Jets can’t even lose the right way. Then again, maybe it’s that exact attitude a winner like Lawrence respects. There he is, sitting on his couch for a little Sunday NFL action, and he watches the 0-13 Jets knock off a 9-win Rams team, while the Jags get spanked by the Ravens. The pro-tankers would never agree with such a move, but Douglas’s culture talk lines up with Lawrence’s values. If the kid were to spurn any organization for another, it would absolutely fall in line with a vision that aligns itself with winning principles.

    Mekhi Becton and Denzel Mims are huge draws for a young quarterback. So is the New York area, no matter how digital this world becomes. Look at the former players-turned-media members in the business. From Bart Scott to Mike Tannenbaum, Keyshawn Johnson to Mark Sanchez and even Rex Ryan, former Jets are everywhere. Perhaps it’s part of the reason why the Jets always get the wrong end of the stick when headlines are read.

    This topic is less about what Lawrence will or should do and much more about why the double-standard exists. Again, why are the Jags head and shoulders above the Jets? Why is it a better landing spot for a kid quarterback? And if the answer is, “It’s not,” then why haven’t the “Lawrence should avoid the Jaguars” headlines popping up on your social media feed right now?

    Yes, it’s surely is possible: Trevor Lawrence can, indeed, spurn the Jacksonville Jaguars for the New York Jets this spring, and there are many reasons to do so. You just wouldn’t know it if you stuck to the mainstream voices.
     
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  3. SackExchange69

    SackExchange69 Well-Known Member

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    He's gonna play for whoever drafts him.
     
  4. Brook!

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    Trevor will happily play for the team who picks first.
     
  5. Bellys Lies

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    Do you trade our 1st and what we got for Jamal Adams for Trevor? It seems very painful now but last offseason, if someone asked would you trade Adams and our 1st for Trevor, I think a lot of people would be on board with it
     
  6. JETS1116

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    The difference is he basically declared 2 weeks ago that he’ll play for who drafts him. He also went to high school in GA, so does his family live there? He may now be close to home and there’s another incentive.
     
  7. Jonathan_Vilma

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    Yes but the requested haul for him would probably be 3x that package. And in that situation it's likely not a very good move given how bad this roster is.
     
  8. grkmanga31

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    I don't buy into the idea that Trevor is going to pull an Eli Manning, but I'm glad there are articles being published treating the Jaguars like the Jets were being treated.

    There seems to be organized hatred in media circles, and just generally with other fanbases, that believes the Jets should perpetually stay bad.

    On social media after the loss, the amount of random fans laughing at us and loving the prospect of the jets being bad forever was actually kind of sad. I know personally, I would never laugh at another fanbase if they missed the playoffs for an entire decade and had the seasons we've had. It isn't something any fan should really have to endure.

    As a fan who believes in winning with class (no bragging, no shit talking other fans, just win and move on), it was eye opening knowing many across the league, including the likes of Pat McAfee, Adam Schefter, Jeremy Schaap, etc. were pompously loving the idea of Jets missing out on Trevor Lawrence.

    It's all fun and games, but no one has gone out of their way to explain why they hate the jets so much and why is Jacksonville a better landing spot and more deserving of trevor versus the Jets
     
  9. WoodyHarrelson

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    Forgot about the Greeny quote. He’s the biggest d bag and try hard there is. Kind of person I hate
     
  10. westiedog1

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    We as fans, of course, are partial to our own franchises, however, kids coming up through "the system" (i.e. H.S. and college) have one goal and that is to play in the NFL. I think kids look at professional football as this one monolithic organization with many branches, sort of like Citibank, and it doesn't matter which of these branches is the doorway to fame and fortune. So articles like this, while providing a story line to writers desperate for something to write about, don't reflect any reality.
     
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    Probably the biggest reason Trevor may not want to sign with Jacksonville is Jacksonville is the team most likely to be moved to England.
     
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    He might as well start looking for real estate in Jacksonville. That's where he's going.
     
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    Keep building up the BYU kid and the Jets can get almost as much for the number 2 pick as number 1.
     
  15. Lon Chaney

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    Over reaction Wednesday. GIVE ME ZACH WILSON

    But seriously, give me Zach Wilson.
     
  16. REVISion

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    There is no way the Jags would agree to this. It would probably take multiple first rounders to move up to #1.

    If we had Lawrence sitting in our lap and traded out for one additional 1st rounder would you be happy?
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    I believe so, too, but think this article makes some valid points that people need to keep in mind, especially since most of the media is obviously biased anti-Jets.
     
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    Agreed, but once he signs with an agent, his agent could convince him otherwise.
     
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    The post you quoted said our 1st AND WHAT WE GOT FROM SEATTLE (which is two 1st round picks and a 3rd I think). It would still probably take more than that, but the poster didn't say just our 1st.
     
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  20. ouchy

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    TBH we could probably get him for our 4 firsts and a second or two over the next two drafts. But that is still a lot to give up.
     
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