On that play the last man on defense should have been on the friggin one yard line. But hey, when you are about to win sometimes you got to call in the heavy armor.
That's a terrible idea. I hate that the NBA does that. For the supposed goal of preventing teams from purposely tanking, you screw more teams that are just legitimately bad. If...IF...the Jets actually go 0-16, that's a really hard thing to do because only two teams have done it before. Even going 1-15 is incredibly hard. But it would show how terrible they are, and in need of all the help they can get. To deprive them - and not just the Jets, but any team that bad - of that help is a bad idea. Besides, the NFL is way different than the NBA because of the size of the teams and the impact that a #1 pick has respectively. Because you can realistically turn a bad team into a playoff team with a great #1 pick in basketball, the same can't be said for football. Even if the Jets get Lawrence, they're not going to become playoff contenders just from that 1 pick right away. So the "benefit" of tanking in the NFL is much less than the NBA, where I believe it was done regularly for the reason I just described. A lottery draft isn't the answer for the NFL.
Not only no, but HELL NO!!! That's a terrible idea. It sucks in the NBA and would suck even worse in NFL. The worst team should get the 1st pick. In the NBA it's an abomination because many times the worst team doesn't come close to getting the 1st pick. Whoever came up with the lottery system should be lined up and shot.
The problem with worst gets the #1 is it incentivizes losing at all costs, as in the situation the Jets and the Jaguars are in now. One of the Raiders opponents for the wildcard may well lose out on the playoffs this year because the Jets were going to lose that game come what may. It's not the effects at the bottom that are most keenly felt in a loser-takes-all scenario - it's the whole structure that weakens.
The Jets didn't lose to the Raiders on purpose; if you're losing on purpose, you don't score 15 unanswered in the 4th quarter and then force a turnover on downs when they have the ball on your 9 yard line with under 2 minutes to play.
Exactly! It's simply amazing to me how some Jets fans cannot understand simple facts and sound logic. They'd rather believe some wild ass conspiracy theory that makes no sense and has no basis in fact. SMH
If the NFL is worried about teams tanking, they can easily discover whether a team has. Tanking requires a conspiracy, and conspiracies can be uncovered. Nothing remains a secret forever - look at the Astros and their sign stealing conspiracy. If a team tanks, then punish THEM, not the teams that just "earned" their suckiness the "old fashioned way" by just being bad. The only thing a lottery for losers provides is to get the hopes up for the fans of the "almost as bad as the worst" teams because their team might get lucky and get the #1 pick even though they didn't "earn" it. But what about the actually worst team? How often do they get the #1 or even the #2 pick? More often they wind up with the last pick. As a Knicks fan I can attest that the draft lottery is the worst idea in the world for preventing tanking and fairness.
Agreed. The NBA draft lottery is perhaps the most terrible idea in sports. And it won't change because the NBA can market the stupid lottery drawing on a Thursday night and get a rating from it and discussion behind it. It has done NOTHING to change how teams play out the ends of seasons and whether they tank or not. It's useless. In football, true all out tanking is not even near the guarantee it is in basketball because one transcendant star in basketball changes everything quickly. In the NFL, it might but no guarantee it does, especially if its not a QB.
exactly. the prevent defense did not work, either! it was a gamble to end the game, and the coin flipped wrong side. it was good luck for us in the upcoming draft order.
Gregg really tried his hardest to do well. He had no corners unless you count the little Bless gives you and the promise of Hall. And no edge rushers, leading to the dominance of the interior dline
He lost his job because of the row afterwards, there is no way on earth Gase didn't seek him out and start finger pointing, on that score anybody seen a close up of Gase this week, I'd fancy Williams throwing a mean right-hander that twitchy wouldn't see coming due to him not looking a person in the eye.
To help prevent tanking the NFL has moved division games to the end of the season. We end with NE this yr, Buff last 2. Teams are less likely to tank, even if they want to, if they're playing a division rival. And teams are less likely to have locked up the division (and PO spot) if there's divisional games to be played at the end. Worse than tanking is taking the last game or two off ('resting' 90% or your starters) after establishing your PO slot. In '09 we benefited in week 15 when the Colts (who were undefeated at that point) resting their starters (vs going for a undefeated season) and they went down to Sexy Rexy and Company. That win got us the last PO spot. Rest is history. Tanking is a fan thing. No player will play soft to lose a game on purpose. Their jobs and NFL careers are on the line every week (as well as the HC's). The closest I've ever seen is when we're out of it with a bad record and players make 'business decisions' when it come to tackling a big bad RB who has a full head of steam. Or if the team is playing bad and the HC has lost the team. Lots of half ass effort in those cases. (This hasn't happened to us yet this year or last year somehow Gase has managed to keep the team playing hard for him). The whole tanking concept only lives in the minds of fans (and most good GMs).
I may be in the minority here, but I don't think Gregg has done a terrible job as a Jet. Even with this idiotic call last week, Gregg's defense is actually #29 in the League. This is no doubt bad overall, but given what has has to work with, the fact the Jets are actually #32 in NFL, and #7 rank this year, and an argument can be made, in totality he wasn't terrible for the Jets. I would be worried to do anything right now to impede the tank, but I just don't expect defense to do any better without him. Yes, he blew this call (thankfully), but if anything I think the defense may get even worse without him calling the rest of the games. So, as far as tank is concerned, I welcome this move.
