careful with BB....can anyone see him coaching that game to lose therefore knocking the jets out of the #1 spot, so they can't draft Lawrence?
Definitely. Hopefully the Colts have their playoff spot locked up in Week 17, so the Jags will be in the same boat as we are.
The Covid factor is the only thing standing in the way. At any moment we can be facing Kendall Hinton at QB. Hopefully the Gase factor is stronger than the Covid factor if it comes to it.
No that’s beyond silly it’s ridiculous. BB has won 6 SBs, you really think he is scared of Trevor Lawrence LMAO. He hates the Jets with a passion, he’d lace them up himself rather than be responsible for their only win.
Bill Belichek absolutely despises the Jets - so I wonder what he would do if the scenario was, we win and we lose out on Trevor Lawrence, or Pats win, we go 0-16 (one of the few who have) but we land Lawrence. Pats are currently 5-6 with a remaining schedule of : Chargers, Rams, Dolphins, Bills, Jets 3 out of the 5 come against divisional opponents and I can't imagine the Pats being in the playoff hunt unless they go ahead and beat the chargers and rams. Lets all hope we continue to be so bad that no amount of effort can get us to a win. After all, we control our destiny in a way.
The thing about your second paragraph and that approach is that it most likely limits you to one SB, if that. Even then, it might take a career season from that "decent" QB and a lot of luck. I'm not interested in building a team that has maybe one shot at a SB ring and has to depend upon luck, and maybe a career season out of an average QB. I want the chance that having a true FQB gives you, i.e., the chance to get to and win multiple SBs. One can build around a generational QB. I don't know where this crazy idea came from that some posters have that if you draft a generational QB, you won't be able to build around him. They speak as if after the Jets take Lawrence, Douglas won't draft any more good players or sign any good players in FA, and Lawrence would have to play his whole career with this year's team. Unless Douglas suffers a massive stroke and Lawrence completely falls apart when he comes to the NFL, that won't happen. Douglas is going to continue building this team and he's going to be a very good, if not great, GM for us for 20 years or more. Lawrence can read Ds, he makes good decisions and protects the ball, he is a leader, is stronger mentally, has better pocket presence and poise than Sam. That means that even with a subpar OL, he will still play at a high level. He will get the ball out quickly, throw it away, or run with the ball. IMO Tannehill has shown himself to be better than Vinny was. Vinny had one great year, and the rest were shit or mediocre. With Tannehill and Henry, the Titans could get to and possibly win multiple SBs. Even Parcells, particularly at that stage of his career, was never going to get to more than one SB with Vinny at QB. Vinny had a million dollar arm and a ten cent brain. Having a great QB covers a multitude of flaws on a team. You know that you're never truly out of a game with a QB like that, and the play is so much better, and more exciting and fun. We Jets fans have suffered long enough. Even if Lawrence never gets us a SB victory, if he gives us 10 plus years of great, exciting play and playoff wins, I'll be happy. I'll be disappointed, of course, but it will be one of the best, most exciting decades (or more) in franchise history. The thing is, I believe that he could lead us to at least two SB victories, if not more.
Belichek isn't going to intentionally lose to us. He hates the Jets and obviously thinks the Johnsons are incompetent boobs. Losing to an 0-15 team would be as big a disgrace as going 1-15 or 0-16 himself. He believes in himself enough that he wouldn't care if we got Lawrence. He probably thinks that we'd ruin him, or hire an incompetent HC just like we have every time with the exception of Parcells. Even if not, he'd believe that he could neutralize Lawrence and would enjoy the challenge. At this stage of his career, he probably would welcome the new challenge. What else has he to accomplish in his career? How many SBs has he won? He will go probably down as the greatest HC in NFL history, better than George "Papa" Halas, Paul Brown, Bill Parcells, and Vince Lombardi. What final feather in his crown could be better than frustrating the Jets with their generational QB and keeping them from getting to or winning a SB? That would cement him as the greatest HC ever.
If Sam/Gase hook up for 2-3 wins to close out the season, those fans hoping we keep Gase and Sam keeps playing so we end up 0-16 are gonna look kinda silly.
How so? Going 2-14 isn't exactly something to be proud of. The only difference between 0-16 and 2-14 for us is that one puts us in the driver seat for the draft and the other doesn't. The most pragmatic thing the Jets can do currently is go 0-16. It's not like we're suddenly set at QB if Sam wins a couple games to close out the season. Sam could average 350 yards and 3 TD's per game the rest of the year and still finish as a bottom 5 QB in the NFL this year.
I'm sorry but im watching the NFL and there is def an anti jets bias. We are winless, but if anyone thinks any team in the nfc east is really that much better, theyre blind. The Eagles are awful and they still shoulda beat the Seahawks with any sort of offense. The only reason they have any wins is because of their schedule and their division At least the jets are intentionally sabotaging themselves. Its actually quite clever for a change. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
nothing surprises me anymore.....especially these days. on and off the field. he is not scared of lawrence of course but if he could block them from getting the franchise QB, he most certainly would TRY and throw the game. no doubt in my mind.
Im telling you, i met Joe Douglas last year. He was probably the most pragmatic GM we have ever seen. Do not think for a second he doesnt understand the value of going 0-16. Its better than going 5-11 or 2-13. By now, he knows sam isnt the guy and thats that. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
Yeah, but he almost lost to them on MNF. The Jets had to go into extreme tank mode to lose that game. And Flacco found a way. I was proud.
Question: Is there any NFL bylaw against somebody from the Dallas Cowboys whispering to a member of the Lawrence family....that if he declines to play for NY or Jax that he will find the $$$$-benefits of playing in Dallas (aside from the rookie contract which is locked in) VERY VERY BENEFICIAL ? The Cowboys take in 50% more revenue than the #2 team, the Patriots. That's $300 MM extra that Jerry can spend on Yachts....or under-the-table benefits that don't violate the CBA.
He wasn't trying to lose to the Jets then. His team was really struggling then. He is not going to intentionally lose to an 0-15 team. That would tarnish his record as one of, if not, THE greatest NFL HC of all time, plus he hates the Jets.
I wonder if the Jets could even beat them if they were (0-15) headed into the game and the Jaguars were (2-13) allowing the Jets to play as hard as they could? I doubt it, which is sad.
Random Thoughts: (1) Vinny Testaverde had 2 or 3 good or great seasons. Don't forget Cleveland ! (2) It's funny seeing the Jets mentioned in all these other team's columnists articles about tanking and chances to get a top QB in 2021. Like this in the Detroit Free Press: https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...raft-order-matthew-stafford-trade/6470798002/ (3) I'm worried about Jerry Jones enticing Lawrence to decline to play for a team other than the Cowboys. Surprised it hasn't come up much. Jones would ditch Prescott in a minute for Lawrence. (4) I can't see us winning 3 games at all, which means we are almost assuredly locked into the #2 pick -- at worst. We could go 2-14 and Cincy could finish 2-13-1; they would draft 3rd. The problem remains no margin of error vs. Jax.
Worrying doesn't accomplish anything good or positive. Jones isn't going to be able to do that. Lawrence could make a LOT more money from endorsements in NYC than in Dallas, and if wins with the Jets, he will be the biggest star in the game. If he wins with the Cowboys, he would just be yet another great player in a long line of great players for the Cowboys. Plus Jerry Jones is an assholes and sleazebag. Lawrence has better character than that.
