Not that Avery was coming back next year to the Jets. If you are going to rebuild, you have to build solid draft picks. Now whether the Jets have the luck to draft the right picks is another story. Hopefully this will be the start of the proper foundation.
Its the middle of the season, unless there's some draft or FA period I missed mid season, exactly WTF would you like him to add (for the future) in the middle of the season? Lmaoooo come on
Why can't we ever get one pick for one player? That might be nitpicky but it feels like teams get picks for players all the time without giving up a pick.
JD probably got a higher pick (5th) than if he simply swapped Avery for a pick. Maybe Pitt only offered a 6th, or 7th? JD says "Make it a 5th and you can have our 7th". So basically when the 2022 draft comes around, JD moved our 7th up to a 5th.
shoulda held firm on the 5th only. Sending them a 7th is stupid. Also pretty stupid that it is in the 2022 draft and not the upcoming one. Idk about this Douglas guy ...
Think about that statement for a bit. As I know that others are thinking the same thing. Why would Gase agree to all this purging if it also makes him look bad going 0-16? At least 1 of 4 possible scenarios: 1 - He goes along with the tanking knowing that he's still part of the future for 2021 2- He goes along with the tanking knowing his days as a head coach with other teams are numbered and he'll be fired after the season so he's being a good soldier about. He'll just collect checks for the remainder of the contract. 3 - He's blind to the fact that JD is purging the team and he really believes he can get a HC job with another team in 2021. 4 - He's making all the decisions as to what players should be kicked out and will be part of the 2021 rebuild. I'm not sure about all that is taking place here but scenario 4 is a possibility that can't be ignored. I hope I'm very wrong.
Well the quality of the guys we are selling off are pretty low. Moving up in the draft is better than taking a conditional 6th that they may not even get, plus in my opinion 11 picks is as many as you should go for in 1 draft. I’d much rather have 9 picks, all in round 1-6 than 12 with 3-4 7ths mixed in.
You do realize who we are trading right? We are not trading some high profile player. He is a name that most in the league have no idea about. He is not a big name, by any stretch. Usually these types of deals come with a pick to bring a better offer to the table. A trade with just the player likely was not going to occur, hence the addition of the pick.
Every single report coming out is that Gase will likely be fired in the offseason. There is no sense, at all, to fire him midseason when this year is a disaster. The last thing this franchise needs is a guy like Loggins to walk in and win games and screw us out of the first overall pick and the potential franchise QB. Douglas can not fire Gase. We all know this. I honestly feel that he will be fired at the end of the year and Douglas will spend the offseason interviewing head coaches and making his selection.
Basically, Douglas: Hey coach we gonna have to take some licks to be in a better place in the future. Gase: Ok I’ll prove I’m the guy for the long hall by showing growth as a coach and developing Darnold into a championship QB. Good Coach: Wins 4-8 games and gives Jets hope for the future. Gase: Looks completely uncompetitive in every game without fail. Gase agreed to take some licks in a rough season, not tank. Gase did not execute his responsibility. Douglas did not know for sure if this would happen, but thought it was a possibility.
You got to spread out the picks so contracts don't all expire the same year--if you're lucky enough to get guys who last 4 years.
I get it. And he hasn't played well this year but I wouldn't say a trade with just the player was likely not going to occur. What's that based on? It happens all the time.
Yes but I’m telling you it would have been for a conditional pick. Why make a trade for a pick that won’t even actually be yours?
Well considering he tore his ACL and missed all of 2019 and was battling a hamstring injury now, I wouldn't think anyone would not want more when acquiring him and his salary. If the trade was there for just the player, I would think Douglas would have taken it.
this is all true but Pittsburgh was desperate. Seems like Douglas coulda gotten away without adding a pick just for that reason
They beat Titans and Ravens and Browns back to back, 3 great running teams. At least 2 were without Devin Bush for the whole game. Desperate they are not.
I mean you're telling me you think it would've been a conditional pick. You weren't on the call. I get it. I get all of it. It was a decent trade. Not a great one.
I’m telling you I’ve been studying how teams value players in contract, draft pick and trade situations enough to be very confident that in this situation you’re getting a pick swap, a conditional pick, or maybe a future 7th at best. You’re free to value that opinion however you like
