Joe Douglas

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. With how much Adams wanted to be paid, JD would have to build around him and that contract would hamstring JD and the Jets. Besides, Adams is a liar, wasn't a good teammate, and after he threw everyone under the bus, there's no way that JD could have kept him.
     
  2. BomberJet

    BomberJet Well-Known Member

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    One thing about Adams as we have all learned , he needs to take lessons from a great safety like Ronnie Lott as showing some class. He lacks it in spades.
     
  3. Linebacker712

    Linebacker712 Well-Known Member

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    The thing was, it was never about the money for Adams. He was pissed that Douglas would even take a call requesting a trade for him the year before; he couldn't take the idea that he wasn't considered untouchable. Adams was asking for money he knew full well that he would never get and was doing everything he could to force the Jets to trade him. He already decided last year that he was going to play for this team in 2020.

    Adams is an egomaniac who is going to want out of Seattle the second someone dares to say "no" to him about anything.
     
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  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Huh? What's more important - someone hurting your feelings in negotiations or $18 million per year for the next 5+ years of your career?

    If there's one thing modern day sports has taught us it is that 99.9% of the time it's solely about the money. It was always about the money man.
     
  5. Correction..Right before the deadline Adams sent “feelers” to dallas players & brass to try to get him traded to the Cowboys.It was speculated that Ryan Clarke played a hand as well.THEN when it got leaked that the Jets fielded a call about Jamal..Jamal flipped the script & acted caught off guard & insulted.
     
  6. Linebacker712

    Linebacker712 Well-Known Member

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    The thing is, he's playing on the Seahawks with the same contract and the same pay he was getting with the Jets. He has to know that the Jets were going to pay him close to what he wanted probably next year. I think hurt feelings did have a role in this.
     
  7. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    If this was about the money for Adams, it seems that he failed bigtime. ESPN reports that Seattle intends to let him play out the season on his current contract, and will only look into an extension in the offseason after seeing how he does this season. He went out of the game today on a noncontact groin injury, which won't exactly help him demonstrate his worth.

    I fully believe that this was much more about ego than money for him. He forced his way out of Florham Park because it was clear to him that he was never going to be "the man" here - the Jets clearly want (wanted?) it to be Darnold, and last year it was Williams who got the hosannas for his supposed miracle work with the defense, not Adams for All-Pro performance. He could have ended up getting exactly the same kind of contract here in 2021 as he would get anywhere else, but he wanted the Jets to anoint him as THE team leader, and it wasn't going to happen. It will never happen in Seattle either, of course.

    I also fully believe that Douglas would have been thrilled to send him to a lousy team that would have higher draft position if he could have. If a crappy team had offered a 1, a 2, and a serviceable player (maybe without the player), I think Douglas would have grabbed it. The point is that none did, because crappy teams knew that they weren't going to offer him what he wanted anyway.
     
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  8. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Honestly it was probably Adams wanting to escape this dumpster fire more than anything else.
     
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  9. WoodyHarrelson

    WoodyHarrelson Well-Known Member

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    Adams had to go. Let’s be real. Need picks and talent. Does adams win us any of these 3 game LOL? No. We suck and haven’t drafted well fore a decade and it shows.
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    There are some traps in the roster-building process that have tripped the Jets up many times over the years.

    Probably the biggest flaw in the Jets team-building processes over the last two decades is the assumption that any player is worth a windfall contract in the absence of direct proof that he is the reason you just won the championship last year. Even then, the teams that payout huge deals to the guys who won for them in the past get to enjoy the memories of those past triumphs much more often than they get to see the big deal pay off in the future.

    There are no players on the Jets right now that are worth a top level contract right now. The only guy on the entire roster that is worth a double-digit a year deal right now is Darnold and that's only because it is so hard to find a talented QB worth developing.

    The Jets have not had a player worth a topout deal on the roster since Joe Namath in 1970 and look how that ultimately turned out.
     
  11. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    If we were a good team Adams would have won us games....Good teams dont trade good players.Only the bottom tier teams do...Browns,Raiders,Jets,Dolphins etc.
     
  12. WoodyHarrelson

    WoodyHarrelson Well-Known Member

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    Totally wrong. We need to move on and turn Jamal Adams pick into two starters. Build, build, build. Keeping him was no good currently since we failed to properly draft.
     
  13. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Now our defense is terrible .......what are we building exactly?What happens when we draft 2 busts?We should have paid him....and traded Bell.If we draft 1 starter every year we will be competitive in 30 years
     
  14. Jets69

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    Well it's only been 51 and still counting
     
  15. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    That’s a bit of a “sell job” honestly. Players like to be traded for. It gives them leverage in contract negotiations with their new teams.
     
  16. JoeWalton

    JoeWalton Well-Known Member

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    Three weeks into the season and there are a ton more questions than there were in the offseason. How's that for progress?
     
  17. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Well it’s progress if that’s what you expected, at least on some level. Also a lot of questions have been answered.

    Questions in the offseason:
    -Is Gase the answer at HC? No.
    -Is Darnold the answer at QB? Most likely No.
    -Can Joe Douglas draft well? Too early to say but looks good so far with Becton.

    New Questions:
    -Who will be HC?
    -Who will be QB?
    -Can the Jets get out of their own way and make a good hire at HC.
     
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  18. WoodyHarrelson

    WoodyHarrelson Well-Known Member

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    Our defense does suck but it because we trade him. We suck because we drafted clowns like Nathan Shepherd, Chuma Edoga, Zuniga, LaMichel Petrine, etc. just lack talent and haven’t drafted well for a decade.
     
  19. Boomboom

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    So far with JD we have horrible Free Agents, failing to surround sam with any talent to help him out and a draft that we know nothing about cause most of them are injure.Even than there were some questionable picks. I'm not sure where all of this confidence is coming from, cause since he took over we have turned into an even bigger joke. Obviously that could change but what makes everyone so sure that it will?

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  20. Stevied

    Stevied Well-Known Member

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    Douglas doesn’t get too too much credit from me for Beckton, even Mccagnan kinda “nailed” his high draft picks. Fat boy let us down with everything else, FA wise. Would anyone be crying if he walks the plank at year end?
     

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