Still want Josh Allen over Quinnen?

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  1. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Both would be perfect....edge pressure AND up the gut pressure that prevents the QB from stepping up to avoid the edge pressure.
     
  2. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    Are you taking into account that Allen is playing through a Calf injury?
     
  3. Pepsiguy5

    Pepsiguy5 Well-Known Member

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    I "like" Quinnen Williams but hate him as a #3 overall pick. If that makes any sense.

    In my opinion the drop off from Bosa to Q is catastrophic so that was tough to take in that draft. Then on top of that our team desperately was in need of offensive help for Darnold and there just wasn't anything to take with the #3 pick and nobody wanted to trade for it so the Jets kind of ended up in no man's land which was also tough to take. I kind of hate the 2019 draft. The guy I wanted was Jonah Williams and to be honest I think that still might have been a better pick than Q. Presumably he wouldn't have been injured the same way last year and in theory at least he could be anchoring the RT position for years to come.

    Hopefully Q keeps improving and eventually wins me over.
     
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  4. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    It's a very good post....Allen has NO tackes this year ? Wow....

    Please revisit this thread and update the relevant stats. I'd also like to see what the professional subscription services say about ranking both guys. These services look not only at the stats but the individual play and then rank all the players based on what they did and what was POSSIBLE on each play.

    Great post, again !
     
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  5. JetsKickAss

    JetsKickAss Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Queenan looking at a 4-game suspension for that stupid gun trick ?
     
  6. jilozzo

    jilozzo Well-Known Member

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    careful some folks may misunderstand josh allen over....sam darnold.

    perhaps they will be proved correct??
     
  7. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    This has been disproven by PFF I believe.
     
  8. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Don't really care. Would still want Allen in a Greg Williams defense. No DT will ever impress me unless he's named Klecko.
     
  9. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    Sure, I would take a DOMINNANT edge rusher like Gastineau or LT or Nick Bosa over Quinnen. But there hasn't been a G or LT or NB within reach in 25 years.

    But I would take Quinnin or Arron Donald providing up the middle pressure over Josh Allen or a host of other B+/A- edge rushers any day. NOTHING is more disruptive to an offense/QB than pressure right in his face. The only question is will Q develop into another Arron Donald or top out at Mohmad Wilkerson.

    If Q develops (and he seems to be on his way) then adding a good edge rusher (B+/A-) would make our front 4 very dominant. I think that's what MM hoped for with that Polite LBer who had the talent, bur was too messed up in the head.
     
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  10. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy Q is coming along and starting to look like a dominent D-lineman. we can get an edge rusher another year.
     
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  11. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    . .Class post of the year.

    . .Sarcastic.
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  12. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    comparison to Allen doesnt matter at this point. It does look like Q is a lot better this year than last. I hope it continues
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Josh Allen with another dominant half of tackle-less football against two rookie tackles.
     
  14. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Any one watching Josh Allen against Miami? Is this question even valid anymore? Our guy is hands down a superior pick. Not even close. Allen can be had for a 5th rounder next year lol
     
  15. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Did we extend the same courtesy to Q last year. Hardly.
     
  16. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    I agree but don’t you think the Jets took that a little too far in the past decade? Fortunately Quinnen doesn’t seem like a jerk that will cry his way off the team or stop playing hard after a new contract
     
  17. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Allen 3 QBs hits and a sack today.
     
  18. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    No. You did it. The curse will continue.
     
  19. The Waterboy

    The Waterboy Well-Known Member

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    No, it will get pled down, he'll get a fine on the charges, no suspension based upon NFL precedent.
     
  20. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    I remember Kris Jenkins just plowing through centers back in the day. That poor bastard that he just clubbed out of the way...that was impressive.

    Maybe I remember him as better than he actually was, but from what I can recall, he sometimes just blew up plays before they started.

    One thing that’s probably worth considering is the increased chance of forcing a turnover from a blind side hit. You can clearly see a guy coming right down the middle. Protect the ball and take the sack.

    Not sure what the statistics look like when comparing the 2 types of hits, though.
     

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