NFL to allow social justice decals

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  1. RochesterJet

    RochesterJet Well-Known Member

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    haha I live in NY, public schools are funded buddy. Kids don't show up to school. Grandma is raising them because dad got involved with a gang to be cool and make money and is jail, mom was 15 when she had that child and has 3 other kids by 3 other fathers who are also absent.

    Yes lets let convicted felons out of jail, pay them $20 an hour for min effort customer service jobs (costing consumers more money) and you know that person isn't willing to do the heavy lifting. You must not have any background in business. I pray for people like you
     
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    I have an MBA and recognize society as a whole including the economy is better off when it enriches all involved instead of just padding the pockets of those at the top. It's amazing how much better an effort you get out of most employees when you compensate them fairly as appose to this current system made to funnel money to the top. And are you seriously arguing that people with minor offenses like selling some pot (essentially legal now) belong in prison?
    As for your entire first paragraph, the fact you believe this doesn't come off at all racist is unbelievable. I pray for people like you.
     
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    Morons didn't know Watchmen was political till last year
     
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    Man, some people will jump through all sorts of hoops to justify why brutality against black people is okay.
     
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    Same NFL that wouldn't let Peyton Manning wear black high tops to honor Johnny Unitas after he died
     
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    Unitas Lives Dont Matter.
     
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    Clapping for you and your MBA... I do agree that an economy is better of with many participants involved, before this unfortunate virus we had record participation across all races and genders. If you're a job creator do you not deserve to be compensated as such? If not why would you want to be a business owner? Should the government tell you how much profit you should make? In a capitalistic system, its the consumer that dictates that. If you don't like that system, move to another county with different economic principals. With that MBA you praise, you should know better...

    I don't think we're talking at all about a "little pot" man, that's naïve. While you would rather decriminalize and let convicted felons out of jail, I want all citizens held accountable for their actions. COLOR ASIDE. If you break the law, you do your time. You break it again and again and again and yes, you will be profiled when released. Even car insurance companies raise your rates after you've been in 3-4 fender benders!

    Drug organizations are like army's in the streets, I'm sorry you cant or are unwilling to see this reality. There are turf wars (see Chicago, KC, ATL, and every other city in America as examples) drive this behavior. I support funding for the people that live in these areas and can't afford a way out, I'm sure you do too. They are the ones that need a hand up....not the criminals you want to just let free. Defunding and decimalizing isn't a path to a productive society my friend.

    AND----As the point of this thread---- I am disappointed in the NFL and they lost my $. If they didn't lose yours fine, that's America.
    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...s-supporting-dallas-police-in-regular-season/

    If the Cowboys cant support the Black and Blue and players have been fined for supporting a cause I'm astounded that the NFL decided to hitch the wagon to this politicized cause.



    It starts at home and if you try to insinuate that I'm a racist because I believe that a good foundation starts there, then I am at a loss man. But not as lost as you seem to be...
     
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    I did not say or insinuate that. You deliberately trying this rout is despicable. and are blocked. good day sir!
     
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    If you are a job creator yes you should be compensated but you also should be compensating those whose hard work you profit off of. Let's bring this back to football, when a RB wins the rushing title first thing he does is buy his Oline something awesome like a car or rolex. Bezos made 13 billion yesterday and large numbers of his full time warehouse employees have to second jobs to suppor their family (causing those absentee parents that we agree are a big part of this cycle of societal issues). I'm not saying he can't make 13 bill, good on him, but the guy driving a forklift full time for him shouldn't have to flip burgers on the side to survive.

    I'm not saying release hardered criminals but create a system that rehabs offenders so they DON'T re offend. Teach them life skills and use their time behind bars to prepare themselves to reintegrate into society. Instead they just sit in a cell all day, get released to a world that many won't give them a chance because they are convicts and they re offend because they have no other options (obviosuly this isn't everyone, some people are just animals that belong in prison). And once again we have abscent fathers continuing the cycle.

    And again we agree, funding in these hard hit areas is key. Drug gangs, which do belong behind bars, recruit kids who are disenfranchised. Use some of the massive police budget on social workers and programs to show these kids a way out that doesn't involve a gun and a street corner. On a similar subject, proper sex education would also assist massively. Less young parents leaves them free to continue education and improve themselves.

    I am a bit shocked the NFL allowed these decals. I am all for individuals using their platform and expresing themselves. In past they have been so strict about things like wearing the wrong color cleats to support a charity and the diversity of the NFL fanbase puts them squarely on either side of this subject. Dallas players should have been allowed to honor those police if they chose to, as those events were tragic just like players, if desired, should be able to wear these decals.

    I don't think you're racist. I truly believe you mean well and at the end of the day we agree that a strong foundation at home and good education are keys to a successful life and fixing these would interupt the cycles of generational poverty. Saying a large swath of the black community were absent criminal fathers and underage mothers is not a good look. These problems are frequent in all improvished communities. THIS RIGHT HERE, what we are doing, is what's wrong with modern politics. We agree on the problem and the overall solution but instead of a disucssion we both went hard at eachother. Conversation and expression of ideas are how we move forward, not drawing lines in the sand and not budging. I see the same issue with BLM. battle lines are drawn when the leaders of the movement should be working with police along with various other experts, on reform to create soemthing would be more beneficial to society.
     
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    It's what you are arguing against and whining that players are allowed to speak their minds on. Whether you like it or not, your attitude reflects that.

    But go ahead and block people because you don't like being called out for what you are saying.

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    Are you not Canadian?
     
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    I am. We have a lot of similar problems up here. We handle some differently but are never too far away. Especially when business is involved.
     
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    I'm not saying release hardered criminals but create a system that rehabs offenders so they DON'T re offend. Teach them life skills and use their time behind bars to prepare themselves to reintegrate into society. Instead they just sit in a cell all day, get released to a world that many won't give them a chance because they are convicts and they re offend because they have no other options (obviosuly this isn't everyone, some people are just animals that belong in prison). And once again we have abscent fathers continuing the cycle.

    And again we agree, funding in these hard hit areas is key. Drug gangs, which do belong behind bars, recruit kids who are disenfranchised. Use some of the massive police budget on social workers and programs to show these kids a way out that doesn't involve a gun and a street corner. On a similar subject, proper sex education would also assist massively. Less young parents leaves them free to continue education and improve themselves.

    The communities that get hurt by Defunding the police are the ones you are trying to protect.


    I am a bit shocked the NFL allowed these decals. I am all for individuals using their platform and expresing themselves. In past they have been so strict about things like wearing the wrong color cleats to support a charity and the diversity of the NFL fanbase puts them squarely on either side of this subject. Dallas players should have been allowed to honor those police if they chose to, as those events were tragic just like players, if desired, should be able to wear these decals.

    I don't think you're racist. I truly believe you mean well and at the end of the day we agree that a strong foundation at home and good education are keys to a successful life and fixing these would interupt the cycles of generational poverty. Saying a large swath of the black community were absent criminal fathers and underage mothers is not a good look. These problems are frequent in all improvished communities. THIS RIGHT HERE, what we are doing, is what's wrong with modern politics. We agree on the problem and the overall solution but instead of a disucssion we both went hard at eachother. Conversation and expression of ideas are how we move forward, not drawing lines in the sand and not budging. I see the same issue with BLM. battle lines are drawn when the leaders of the movement should be working with police along with various other experts, on reform to create soemthing would be more beneficial to society.[/QUOTE]
    Not that close, you have socialist crown corp companies and about 300 million less people.
     
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    then lets remove the flag and national anthem from the entertainment, because you know you dont stand at attention before the movie starts either.

    good riddance, you dont get to control grown men, they do not need to placate you or any other fan. it boils down to jealousy and the need of middle aged men to make others subservient.
     
  17. Jonathan_Vilma

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    There are a ton of issues in this world and country other than what BLM stands for or black issues. There are way more issues in black communities than just what BLM even stands for.

    The NFL and professional sports leagues bending the rules they've been vehemently against bending for decades, just so they don't get accused of being racist. Because after all, criticizing the movement in any fashion makes you a racist.

    You literally just did it.

    Just like the woke NBA and not allowing customized jerseys to put Free Hong Kong on the back in the NBA shop or include any messages about 'social justice,' that don't support organizations similar to BLM.

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    Are you just upset that the NFL is able to change it's mind or something? Because they've always been shitty, you think they have to stay shitty?
     
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    I'm not upset. I'm pointing out the pandering that's going on, and that the movement tries to protect itself from criticism by crying racism when someone disagrees with it.

    In a world where there's BLM commercials on Nickelodeon, billboards on the high way, advertisements on websites, signs in stores, and such, there's literally no escaping politics. And considering it's a movement that funnels all of its money into one of the two political parties that's pretty much what it is.

    So sports used to be a nice escape. Especially during the high tension of the 2016 election. It's frustrating to have to turn on the television and think about Democratic vs. Republican politics when you're trying to watch something and give your mind a break from it.

    Sorry you get so upset when people disagree with you and your favorite Marxist organizations movements. Freedom of thought and open discussion from both sides. Nowadays you're harassed for supporting America while also standing for social justice.

    Read up on some of the names people called retired marine Gabriel Johnson when he tried to wave the American flag and ask people to stand in solidarity with him for social justice.

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    You a straight suckah Drew Brees.
     
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