Eli Manning Announces His Retirement

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  1. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    According to ESPN Eli will announce his retirement on Friday. Cue the massive overstatements of his career.
     
  2. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    How do you overstate 2 super bowl mvps?
     
  3. Brook!

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    Thank you Bobblehead.... for beating the P*TS in the SB...... TWICE *

    * honorable mention to David Tyree's helmet :D
     
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    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Because that doesn't make you a Hall of Famer, and yet loads of people will claim he is one. What he is is an extremely durable consistently average quarterback who went on two magical postseason runs. He also did not in any way deserve the MVP in the Super Bowl against the unbeaten Patriots - his passer rating that game was an uninspiring 87.3, and he led the team to a grand total of 17 points. It was the Giants defense shutting down one of the best offenses in NFL history that won that game, not him.
     
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    Unfortunately winning SBs is a very strong parameter when getting in the hall of fame. Look at how he got there each year. Those were some tough roads and no average QB does that twice. All that plays a role. I never respected a player more then Eli when he battled the 49ers in 2011, he was getting murdered yet dragged that team to a SB.

    He should've won MVP in 2011 when he carried that garbage Giants team to a SB.

    57,023 Passing YDs (7th All-Time) 366 Passing TDs (7th All-Time) 2x Super Bowl MVP 210 Straight Consecutive QB Starts (3rd All-Time). Decent stats in a pass happy era. He was never truly a elite QB, but in the playoffs he was especially during those runs. His passer rating in 2011 was on the money.

    He's going to Canton. Not first ballot tho. Aikman got in, why not Eli
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    fame
    /fām/
    noun
    1. the state of being known or talked about by many people, especially on account of notable achievements.
     
  8. Brook!

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    Eli is a first ballot HOF’er.
     
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    What Eli did in those two SB's was a beautiful thing.

    Enjoy your retirement Eli.

    You earned it.
     
  10. Pepsiguy5

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    Bah... like four other players have done that before :)
     
  11. Dierking

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    It’s the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Statistical Achievement.

    figures a stat nerd wouldn’t get it.
     
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    Can you tell the story of the NFL over the course of his career without mentioning Eli Manning's name specifically several times? I'd argue that for anybody whom this is the case and the mentions are for positive achievements deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

    It really isn't a Hall of Numbers. That's why Gayle Sayers and Joe Namath and Terrell Davis all made it. They were famous even though the parts of their career that were actually great were brief compared to most other players worthy of the honor.

    Tom Brady has lost to 2 QB's in the Super Bowl in his 20 year career. He lost to Eli twice. That's Fame with a capital F.
     
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    He beat the Patriots twice in Super Bowls, that's good enough for this Jets fan. :D:D
     
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    I've recently changed my mind on Eli. For a long time, I didn't think he belonged in the Hall of Fame, for reasons already mentioned, mostly his mediocrity. But 2 SB wins, whether he was the reason they won or not, to go along with career longevity (which does count for something.....see Curtis Martin) puts him in the Hall.
     
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    You mean he was given the ball 5 times in a tie game in the 4th quarter and couldn't get his team into FG position a single time at the end of that game? The special teams bailed him out, he didn't drag that team to the Super Bowl.........................
     
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    So? Every team experiences a bit of luck in their given Super Bowl runs. Brady won his fourth SB because of the worst playcall and throw in postseason history. Flacco only gets his SB ring because of that blown coverage with no time left.

    Eli is either underrated or overrated given the bias of whomever is talking about him. He was a good, not great quarterback, who disappointed at times and overachieved greatly in others.

    I don't really think there's anyway you cannot put him in. I'm a fan.
     
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    If his name isn't Manning he isn't getting in. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the HoF.

    "117-117 record with a 60% completion rate. YPA and Cmp% were below average in most of his seasons. Passer rating below average in most of his seasons. He had two great 4-game playoff stretches. Here's a simple litmus test: would you call him an "all-time great" at his position?" Stole this off someone on Twitter.

    Tony Romo is a better QB than Eli Manning and he isn't anywhere close to being in because he doesn't have the hardware.
     
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    Like I said the man was getting murdered by Justin Smith ALL game long. The fact that he didn't turn the ball over was amazing in itself.

    Yes he did drag that horrible team to the SB, look at all the comebacks he had that year.
     
  19. Jonathan_Vilma

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    They also beat 4 teams that year with a combined record of 51-13 and you can argue that he beat three Hall of Fame quarterbacks assuming Matt Ryan might get there.

    That might be one of the toughest roads to the SB there ever was. He averaged 304 yards per game at 65% and threw 9 touchdowns to 1 pick.
     
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  20. NYJetsO12

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    So Archie Peyton and now Eli ..why not? Plenty of room
     

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