No Name Defense the glimmer from 2019

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  1. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    Don’t know if it’s the players or coaches but I’m really impressed we have a nice respectable defense this year. Not the 85 bears but it’s pleasant to see a bunch of no-names compete.

    even without the mouth of the south #33 today, we let up no TD’s


    Big “Probs” from a dark sider.

    Even Big Baby looked good before injury.
     
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  2. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    We are certainly set at defensive line (minus an edge), inside linebacker and safety. Even Blessuan Austin and Poole seem to be making the case to be 2 out of the 3 starters for next year. I would say that we are an edge rusher and a #1 corner and we from being a top 5 defense but that’s certainly easier said than done.
     
  3. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Too many surprises this year + tougher schedule next year = likely regression. Odds are we'll add a couple pieces but won't get to the next level.
     
  4. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I thought their name was New Jack City or something stupid like that.
     
  5. ConcordeChops

    ConcordeChops 2018 International Poster Award Winner

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    Just think how scary we would be if we could actually utilise draft picks properly.
     
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  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Nice to see if Mosley (remember him?) will be the real deal or if that 1 game was a fluke.
     
  7. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    1 game? He isn’t a rookie...
     
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  8. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    I liked Rex Ryan's 'Band of lunatics', with his entire defense milling about the LOS until just b4 the snap. Offenses had no clue who was lining up where or where the pressure was coming from.

    Belichick had his NE squad do this exact same thing last night in the NE/KC game. It was crazy to watch. All 11 men just wandering back and forth while the Hahomes was trying to figure out what protections to call. LOL it worked better when Rex did it!
     
  9. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    Michael Narnia stated some stats the other day in a podcast on our run defense. He said that our average yards per rush compared to the league average yards per rush is the best all time in the modern era. That is without Mosley and Williamson.
     
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  10. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    This says it all. Look at the injury report from the Miami game...most notably "Cornerback Kyron Brown left the building crutches". Who????

    And then this: "The Jets patchwork starting secondary included cornerbacks Kyron Brown and Bless Austin. Darryl Roberts moved from corner to safety"

    All guys (except Roberts) we never heard of. Bless Austin is an oft injured late draft pick none of us thought would ever see the field.

    I guess "hats off" to Gregg Williams for finding a way to at least be 'respectable' with these no-names he got stuck with.


    INJURIES

    Ryan Griffin didn’t return after suffering an ankle injury on the third play from scrimmage.

    Quinnen Williams left with a burner in the third quarter. Cornerback Kyron Brown left the building crutches.

    [More Jets] New York City deserves better from its pro teams »
    The Jets patchwork starting secondary included cornerbacks Kyron Brown and Bless Austin. Darryl Roberts moved from corner to safety to replace the injured Jamal Adams, who missed the first game of his career after suffering an ankle injury last week.

    CB Brian Poole (concussion), CB Arthur Maulet (calf), OL Chuma Edoga (knee), S Mathias Farley and LB Paul Worrilow were also inactive.
     
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  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    we will see how we feel about this defense on Friday morning
     
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  12. Quinnenthebeast

    Quinnenthebeast Well-Known Member

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    I honestly dont think were making a run until 2021 at the earliest. Perhaps it will be a blessing in disguise that our record wont be great next year either for the draft pick and canning Gase. I don't think we are winning crap with him here. Seeing Rhule succeed this year and the fact we have spent $72 million on Trumaine Johnson, who is about to be cut, are prime examples that we haven't a clue what we are doing. Perhaps Douglas will fix the poor personnel decisions, but Gase can screw it up despite talent (see Leveon Bell).
     
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  13. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    getting the pro bowl MLB back from injury will be quite a boost though
     
  14. JetFanInPA

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    Definitely impressed by how the defense has performed despite the injuries and encouraged by the play of so many younger players. As others have said, if they can resign Poole and Jenkins, and then acquire a legitimate starting CB and pass-rusher, this defense should be great.

    Have a feeling those rushing stats will take a notable hit on Thursday, but hopefully doesn't take away from the larger body of work this season.
     
  15. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    It would seem that even before figuring in draft picks we have some cap space to make a couple upgrades to our defense while leaving plenty of space to fix our horrible offense.

    2020 Starting Salary Cap Hits (High to Low)

    This assumes that we bring back Roberts and cut Johnson

    Total committed to starters for 2020 $66,344,825 = 33% of cap
    Total committed to backups for 2020 $9,865,994 = 5% of cap

    Total commitment $76,210,819 = 38% of cap

    2020 Salary cap estimate $200,000,000 = 100% of cap


    ILB CJ Mosely $17,500,000
    Dead Money (Trumaine Johnson ($12,000,000)
    ILB Avery Willimson $8,500,000
    DE Henry Anderson $8,333,333
    DE Quinnen Williams $7,393,039
    SS Jamal Adams $7,082,332
    DT Steve McLendon $2,825,000
    FS Marcus Maye $2,085,378
    CB Blessan Austin $625,743
    CB Barndon Copeland UFA
    OLB Jordan Jenkins UFA

    Backups
    CB Darryl Roberts $6,000,000
    DE Nathan Shepherd $1,064,931
    OLB Terrell Bashum $777,500
    ILB James Burgess $735,000
    DT Foley Futakasi $703,563
    DE Kyle Phillips $585,000
    FS Rontez Miles UFA
    DE Barndon Copeland UFA
    ILB Neville Hewlett UFA
    SS Matthias Farley UFA
    CB Brian Poole UFA
     
  16. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    We're giving up 3 yards per rush, the 2000 Ravens allowed 2.7.
     
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  17. NCJetsfan

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    That's great and all, but deceptive. As previous posters have said, other teams don't have to rely on running on us. They know they'll have lots of time for the QB to find open receivers.

    Also, with Mosley back next year, it should be even better. With that being the case, we don't need Williamson. He would be a luxury. If we trade or release him, we can save $6.5 million on the cap. With that we could sign a quality starting OG or CB, or maybe even an ILB who is better in pass coverage.
     
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  18. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Remember 2003? The Jets were #2 in pass defense, #31 in rush defense....
    Everyone on that team forgot how to tackle for a whole year. It was surreal.
     
  19. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Thankfully, I've blocked it out. I have PTSD from following the Jets.
     
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  20. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I’m glad I’m not the only one who was taken by that post.
     

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