Today is Sam Darnold day. It's all about Sam Darnold.

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  1. vokab206

    vokab206 Well-Known Member

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    Continued...we needed a Field goal and had the ball at the 25 with no time outs and a minute and a half left and we won. game winning drive. Kudos.
     
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  2. Bellys Lies

    Bellys Lies Well-Known Member

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    Gase is a quarterback coach in two years
     
  3. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    I pity the quarterback.
     
  4. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Hea
    Joke.

    Darnold QB Rating: 86.6
    Shitztragic QB Rating: 65.7.

    Darnold 2 TD passes.
    Fitzmagic 0 TD passes (FG kicker all 21 pts).

    Darnold 1 int (2nd year QB was youngest ever to start season as rookie last year)

    Fitzpatrick 1 INT' (after having playing experience with like 1/3rd of the NFL by now.

    Darnold: 270 passing yards.
    Loser: 245 passing yards.


    In what way did Fitz "out play" Sam Darnold? You liar.
     
  5. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Out playing Fitz don't make you good.

    It makes you average.

    And that's what Sam is.
     
  6. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Why do you keep saying this like it’s bad? He’s doing some very above average things but at age 22 with instability everywhere around him, can’t put it together consistently yet. This isn’t abnormal or a bad thing.
     
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  7. NYJFOREVER

    NYJFOREVER Well-Known Member

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    We have eyes.
     
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  8. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Yea. Right. Because as if Montana, Marino and Brady and Favre and anyone else were "HOF QB's" @ only 22 years of age.

    Is he average because he was drafted into a losing franchise who's only been to 3 AFC Championship Games and 0 SB's since 1969?

    Is he average because he's only a 2nd year kid under two different head coaches/offensive systems while becoming the youngest QB ever to start off a season last season as a rookie?

    Is he average because he's quarterbacking behind a bottom feeding bottom 3 if not the worst offensive line in football? An All-Pro and future HOF HB in Bell who came into 2019 top two All-Time in all purpose yards from scrimmage pee game CAN NOT even find running lanes due to a well, you know; a bottom feeding O-Line in which got Maccagnan fired.

    Is he average because any of the above? If not please explain otherwise other than horseshit fillers.

    He wasn't average as a rookie last year ending the last 4-5 weeks with the NFL'S highest QB Rating of any QB and he hasn't been average going 4-1 over the previous 5 games under shit circumstances.

    QB Rating of 84.3 this year (and climbing) and higher than last year's QB Rating and career wise has thrown for more TDs than INTs thrown throughout his young career and has a completion percentage of over 60% this year (62.2%) in which all of this is awesome out of Darnold considering the hand that he's been dealt as a Jet thus far. You all should be thankful he hasn't been a shit show disaster thus far because most young Qbs would be.

    Some of you are truly short sighted and have no concept of knowing how to grade a player other than saying he's "average". Y
     
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  9. Ralebird

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    Not only did he not catch it but he would have been down by contact if he had.
     
  10. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    This isn't your dad's NFL anymore. Case Keenum moves the ball well enough to keep getting job offers in this league. Fitzpatrick as well. Shitty quarterbacks create offense because the rules dictate that they can.

    So comparing quarterbacks across eras is silly. Marino and Favre both had 6 4,000 yard seasons in their careers. Stafford has 7 and he only has one full season below that mark. Jameis Winston is working on his 3rd in 5 years. Point is; the standards are much different now. And young quarterbacks move the ball with or without help a lot of times.

    Darnold has no help. He played like he had no help today. But he did not look good today. He had open receivers and missed them. He was staring down Robbie Anderson all game long and refused to throw it underneath to Crowder and Griffin. He felt pressure when it wasn't there and didn't feel pressure when it was there.

    He gets a bit of a Mulligan for this entire season for me. He got a shitty disease that 17 year olds get that really debilitates you. And then he had to come back and play professional football after he was unable to do a thing for a month. Then he comes back and has to play behind the leagues worst offensive line and gets thrown into a buzz saw that is the leagues best pass defense in his second game back.

    All of that is understood. But let's call a spade a spade. He didn't play well today. And he played against a secondary of players that will struggle to find special teams jobs next year. There were busted coverages all day.
     
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  11. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    When the scoreboard and the paycheck have allowances for a player's age get back to us.
     
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  12. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    [QUOTE="Jonathan_Vilma, post: 3885681, member:
    All of that is understood. But let's call a spade a spade. He didn't play well today. And he played against a secondary of players that will struggle to find special teams jobs next year. There were busted coverages all day.[/QUOTE]

    He threw two TDs only 1 INT, 270 passing yards and a QB Rating of 86.6 is playing well. Great, no but he DID play well.

    And stop it with the Dolphins excuses as Sam was without his prized FA and All Pro HB in Bell. Without his starting TE in Herndon. Without a handful of O-Lineman who were starters opening day and wouldn't even qualify for other teams special teams/practice squads. No Enunwa neither spade a spade, huh?
     
  13. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    He threw two TDs only 1 INT, 270 passing yards and a QB Rating of 86.6 is playing well. Great, no but he DID play well.

    And stop it with the Dolphins excuses as Sam was without his prized FA and All Pro HB in Bell. Without his starting TE in Herndon. Without a handful of O-Lineman who were starters opening day and wouldn't even qualify for other teams special teams/practice squads. No Enunwa neither spade a spade, huh?[/QUOTE]

    Do you know how quarterback rating is calculated? Me either. I've never looked at it to gauge how a quarterback played in my life. So it means nothing to me. Bell has averaged 3.2 yards per carry for the season. Powell hit it at 3.9 today and Montgomery 3.4. So this was pretty much our best running game of the season.

    None of the other factors you outlined have changed game to game too much since he's been back. The entire offense around him pretty much sucks. It's not a secret. But he's looked a lot better than he did today. And he's struggling with some of the little things that'll keep him from being great.
     
  14. Ralebird

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    He threw two TDs only 1 INT, 270 passing yards and a QB Rating of 86.6 is playing well. Great, no but he DID play well.

    And stop it with the Dolphins excuses as Sam was without his prized FA and All Pro HB in Bell. Without his starting TE in Herndon. Without a handful of O-Lineman who were starters opening day and wouldn't even qualify for other teams special teams/practice squads. No Enunwa neither spade a spade, huh?[/QUOTE]

    The eye test says he threw in front of receivers, he threw behind receivers and he threw over the heads of receivers. He was not very good today, certainly not FQB good. The jury is still out even if the apologists are not.
     
  15. BroadwayAaron

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    Rock solid contribution in a discussion about developing a QB.
     
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  16. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    The guy is mired in mediocrity; quit making excuses for him.
     
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  17. MoWilkBeast

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    Wasn't Griffin injured on the second or third play of the game? And Darnold had already completed one pass to him!

    I thought first half he played fairly well. The second half not so well and you are definitely right overall. There's plenty of things to be encouraged about and plenty of stuff for him to improve on. I think he's always going to take some risks, possibly too many, and do things like throw the pass to Crowder instead of taking the 6 yards rushing. That's the type of player he is.
     
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  18. dmarz45

    dmarz45 Well-Known Member

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    Idk what game you were watching but Sam sucks bro lol

    and on another note bilal Powell looks way better than Le’Veon bell. #overrated
     
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    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    I watch the games. I see the talent, weigh it against what he is working with. I see some of the things he does not many qbs can do. I see him getting more comfortable and can see that with a slight upgrade in surrounding talent he can really be special and by the time he is 27 he will be making average players look special. Look at what’s happening, almost every point we get is because Sam had to make a good to great play on the drive. He’s being asked to carry the offense, at 22, and he’s getting better at it .

    serioulsy, why don’t you?
     
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