NY Jets 2020 draft thread

Discussion in 'Draft' started by JetsUK, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. I just think when youre taking a Center round 1 they have to be a 2 way player & elite in both aspects. They cant just be the cherry on top of a great college OL who did a great job doubling/combo w elite level guards. I want legit bulls that can win individual matchups & bring elite blocking ability which frankly is rare at center which is why they rarely go RD 1.

    Youre taking that guy not just to set the blocks pre snap & maybe bring one elite other quality to the table.You can find those types on day 2/3.You want a franchise dominant center to build around.

    While Biadasz is a very good prospect i see alot more of the traits from above in Humphrey. Biadasz has superior athleticism,get off & reach blocking ability.It ends there.Humphrey is stronger, better anchor, better lower flex,more natural leverage & better in recovery.Hes perfectly functional on reaches w room to get better.
     
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    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    I have to agree. I like Humphrey's footwork and hands bettter. Obviously we have a while left. But if i had to choose it would be humphrey later in the draft... he may go at the top of the 2nd. If not him we should tey Gage Cervenka later. He could develop into a solid center. But humphrey is by far my first pick at the position.
     
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  3. Sosaia Mose out of North Texas is my sleeper Center.Very athletic,stout & active.

    1.Humphry
    2.Biadasz
    3.Hanson
    4.Mose
     
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    J-Raw24 Well-Known Member

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    I will try to find some tape on him. What do you think of Walker Little (if he gets healthy). Also Daishawn Dixon out of San Diego State in the late round as an RG prospect.
     
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    1. In one-on-ones I see a lot of "everybody circle to the right" with Humphrey,
    2. Humphrey's "country strong" aside, Biadasz also strikes me as a mauler as well and is not strictly an OG-escort.
    3. Biadasz's "bod" doesn't strike me as a liability. Neither find him 'lean' nor leverage-challenged.

    Two items:
    1. Both are going up against good challenges this Saturday (esp. Wisc.).
    2. As previously suggested, I think this (from a Jet perspective) might be a moot point since there are other OL spots that need to be addressed (OG/OT) first.

    As for your undersized (haha) C guy Mose from N. Tx. St........check out Aaron Brewer from Tx. St.
     
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    This is one of the reasons why I hope Douglas remains open to trading Adams should a team make an offer than includes a 2020 1st rounder. This way, OT and C can be addressed in round 1.
     
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  7. Its all solely preference & bc its potentially round 1 being super picky is justified.

    The leverage comment is based on something i personally look for in OL.I like guys w good natural leverage & center of gravity. This usually comes from elite balance, lower flex & lateral agility. There are countless great OL who dont have this quality its just something i believe in.They are able to stay square to blocking assignments w ease. NYG sort of look for this in their OL among some other things that i dont.

    I see this quality in Humphrey so hes gonna get the nod from me over Biadisz if everything else is equal.Humphrey i actually think would be a really good guard just as well.Something to consider
     
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    I know we are all in LT or bust with 1st rd pick but Ceedee Lamb will be real tough to pass on at 9ish. Especially if Thomas is gone by then.
     
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    I really like Lamb. He's a great player. I don't think we will be picking 9ish. I think it will be nore around 5-7. But we have huge needs on the line. I would rather see them get a huge target that can contest 50/50 balls for Darnold. He's been missing one his whole career. He loves TE. What would he do with a WR that can go up and get it for him.
     
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    I like Lamb so much. He really reminds me of prime Antonio Brown with his quick feet and making defenders that have him dead to rights miss on the tackle. If this was a weak wide receiver class I think it'd be a no brainer. But it's a strong receiver class so I can see us passing on him.

    Even still, the wide receiver are as much of a problem for this team as evident against the Bengals as the offensive line is.

    I also think we'll flirt with trading Bell. Even if we don't I'd like to see us go get a runningback in the mid-rounds so we have one primed for the role after we cut Bell following the 2020 season, which is pretty much inevitable.

    Zack Moss is one of my favorites in the draft. Productive player for three years, he navigates the holes well and always get an extra yard or two. He's a tough runner and won't be a homerun threat in the pro's but he's just a good well rounded runningback.

    Deeper I like AJ Dillon although I wonder if his quickness will be a question. He's a big dude but he'll be a 4-4.5 YPC runner in the NFL for a couple years if not anything more. Like most power backs he offers you next to nothing in the passing game which is his issue.

    Larry Rountree is another player who could be a good 4th-5th rounder. Not as much college production but he's looked solid the times I've watched that terrible Missouri program.
     
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    I will agree on this. Even if we keep Bell we need to get a running back. I really like Travis Ettiene. But he's going to go way to high. Moss is definitely solid but I lean more toward a bruiser. We will most definitely go with a committee approach and have Bell. We could easily bring back Powell. A Bruiser back would be great. AJ Dillon would be perfect for that roll. He can punish the defense. And since Gase only calls runs up the gut he would be good for Gase next year and good if we get rid of Gase next year.
     
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    Agreed with the posts above that we need to get a RB as Powell and Montgomery are FA's after the season. We also don't know how much longer Bell can be productive as he'll be 28 going into next season and he may have already lost a step. I like Akers, Hill, and Benjamin as possibilities in the middle rounds.
     
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    Akers and Hill both looked good behind terrible o lines. Akers is excellent in the pass game as well and from the few games I've caught he can block. Benjamin is kinda small. Could still be good but pass blocking maybe a bit rough. I still think we need a biggest back. Someone to really blow up the holes. Thats why I agree with Dillon. Hes just over powers everyone. He could easily go in as a fullback on some plays. Great in short yardage situations.
     
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    Anybody else noticed that the other bad teams really need OL help, too?

    My (always questionable) assessment of needs--

    Bengals: QB, OL
    Giants: OT, DB, Edge
    Redskins: OL
    Dolphins: OL, Pass Rush, QB?
    Falcons: OL, Pass Rush, DB
    Lions: CB, OL
    Cardinals: OL, ....any/all Defense
    Chargers: OL, DB
    Jags: OL, any/all Defense
    Broncos: DT, OL
    Panthers: OL, DL
    Jets: OL, Pass Rush, CB

    Even if this is a great draft of OL, the Jets may well be out of luck. Particularly since we need about 9 of them.
     
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    Lol. This rebuild will take some time. But we can get some in free agency. I think as long as we get a good tackle and center we did well. Guards can come in later rounds. Its not going to be a great year. But its a process with GM. This will be his first draft .
     
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    As I have stated I completely agree with Humphrey over Biadasz. I looked at some film on Moses. He looks pretty athletic but sometimes its hard to gage him as oline generally get covered up. I'm interested on your take on the tackle prospects in the first 3 rounds. Some say Becton will fall out of the 3rd. Also Walker Little and Alaric Jackson both are rated well but have some glaring issues.
     
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  17. Moses is super athletic, has good upper & lower flex..and good natural leverage. I like guys that do more w. less. Many have credited him as being a HUGE part of UNT making strides over the last couple seasons. I would not be surprised at all if he's the best center in this class looking back 3 years from now nor would i be surprised if he is gone by round 2.

    Walker Little I think is a good player. Solid all around but I dont think he's a great athlete in space...he might be a better fit at RT..

    Becton has been one of my guys for awhile. He reminds me of an Eagles/Steelers sort of linemen...and given where JD comes from it's an obvious match. Very curious where he weighs in & how he performs at combine. He could literally go day 1,day 2 OR early day 3. He's gotta show up in shape & move really well in drills.

    I need to hone in on the Iowa guys Wharfs & Jackson...First impression Jackson looks more like a guy who will kick inside & have alot of success..But he's iffy at Tackle.
     
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    I'd have no problem with Humphrey at center or guard over the Jets' current C/OG slop. Lots of centers on display Friday/Saturday.
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    Yeah I like Becton. Actually living 30 miles north I've got to see him live a few times. He plays very well but there is the weight issue. If he can control his weight and has a great combine I could see him make a push into the first round.

    As for Little I think he could make a good LT but I fear about his injury. If he loses any strength or agility he will have no choice but to move to the right side.

    Jackson I think
    Thanks a really like Little at tackle but you definitely gave me some insight to look at. The injury was my biggest concern. Of course from what I have seen it may be the only reason he would fall to us.

    Becton is good but unless he control his weight ge may drop. I live near about 35 miles north and get annual tickets to some games. I didn't go thus year now I'm regretting it.

    As for Jackson, I agree. Some posters have talked about us taking him but to me he looks like a really good guard. Faster edge rush beats him in the outside, moving him to guard seems the logical choice.
     
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    I definitely agree. IMO the two biggest shortages in the NFL are quality QBs and quality OL. That's why I hope we lose out so we're drafting as high as possible in each round and get more shots at OL than the other teams. I want to be drafting in the top 5 one last time, and then never have to draft that high again. I want this to be a homerun draft where we get two immediate starters on the OL, a starting WR, a quality CB, and depth that will contribute.
     
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