Rosen, Darnold, Allen - Part II

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  1. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Equally as Billsy to puff out your chest after playing in one playoff game total since the turn of the millennium.
     
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  2. Bills over Jets

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    When did I do that?
     
  3. legler82

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  4. 101GangGreen101

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    Now that we have a running back, we can go back to running for a ridiculous amount of rushing yards against that Buffalo defense.
     
  5. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Fancy that on a Jets forum, shocking stuff.
     
  6. K'OB

    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    Well we will find out if you were right in about three seasons after Brady sees him off and he goes to another team to try his luck, like the other young QB's before him ;)
     
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  7. BroadwayAaron

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    Or Sam can just shred it for another game winning drive on the road. Either works.
     
  8. BroadwayAaron

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    Interesting read from SI yesterday:

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/06/m...tter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sinow

     
  9. BrowningNagle

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    Gus Malzhan's offense is an innovation. "Worst in football" what a crock
     
  10. The Dark Knight

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    Miami got a great deal for Rosen. Many, including myself, assumed he would go #2 or #3 overall for months last year. They got him for a 2nd Round pick? Really good value. All that matters now is how Sam, Josh, and Josh play, but the Jets clearly paid the most for their QB. Luckily for Gang Green: I think Darnold is the best of them. By a mile.
     
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    Same here. I think Darnold is best of the bunch. Who would have thought all 3 would end up in the AFCE. It should make for some exciting matchups over the next 12-15 years if everything works out. Unfortunately Grandpa QB will have his team winning the division again this season.
     
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  12. legler82

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    It is the worst in terms of QB development.
     
  13. BrowningNagle

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    idk, it worked out pretty well for Cam Newton.

    Also Michael Lombardi's quote from your article also didn't stipulate that - he went full on "its the worst offense in football."

    the Patriots may have drafted Stidham because he was in Gus Malhzans' system, opposite of the point you are trying to make. The Patriots have taken things straight from Malzhans playbook over the years. He is one of the few college coaches that runs a balanced spread system, and numerous NFL teams have emulated elements of his system.
     
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    Stidham's inconsistencies are why he fell in the draft, we had a little discussion on Stidham 2 years ago.
     
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    His year was actually quite similar to Darnolds.

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  16. Biggs

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    Over all that's pretty true. Sam had a few good games down the stretch that may be attributable to a progression that Rosen didn't really show but I agree they both were similar if you take into consideration that Rosen was under a lot more pressure than Sam. The Jets OL as bad as it was, was miles better than AZ OL. Rosen actually had 2 game winning drives to Sam's 1. Over all I think Sam showed better at the end of the season. Of course Sam got to sit a few games right before the last stretch which might have actually helped him. Rosen was taking an enormous beating that was only compounding as the season wore on.

    It's going to be a good debate for a long time. I hope Rosen and Allen turn out to be good and Sam turns out to be just enough better to get the big wins when it counts.
     
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    Sam had good games prior to the final stretch and if you look at the turnovers the majority came from like 3 games.
     
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    Sam had slightly better numbers under less pressure. He was in a much better situation. The numbers for both of them kind of sucked. Nobody is excited about Sam or Josh based on last years numbers. They both flashed talent and both struggled. No big deal it will play out. I think Sam will be great. Until he is or until Rosen washes out TBD...
     
  19. BacktoQueens

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    Darnold was rated as the top QB in the league over the final 3 weeks of season according to PFF.
    Rosen was benched due to terrible play, and has since been traded away for pennies on the dollar.

    They both struggled early, but Darnold improved tremendously while Rosen just got worse.
    Their seasons were not comparable imo, other than playing for poorly coached teams.

    Things can certainly change, but as of now Darnold is a clear step above.
     
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  20. legler82

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    Very good point about NE possibly drafting him because of that offense but it doesn’t counter mine and I think maybe Lombardi’s. The system hurt his draft stock which is my point and something I predicted may happen when he decided to go back to Auburn. He’s a natural passer with 1st round talent but fell to the 4th. Had he stayed in Baylor and had the opportunity to continue to throw the ball as many times as he did as a freshman, he would have been a 1st round pick. With regards to Cam no system is going to hurt the draft stock of a player with his physical gifts (Josh Allen).
     
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