o-line rebuild

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  1. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    I think it would be a mistake to move Winters to C.
     
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  2. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

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    Maccagnan's idea of building an OL is resigning an awful retread like Qvale. Qvale got knocked on his butt last year during a preseason game, probably by some scrub.
     
  3. Why?
     
  4. Footballgod214

    Footballgod214 Well-Known Member

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    With some of the top players in each of the last 10 drafts being interior d-lineman (including Quinnen Williams this year), the value of guard has shot up to near LT value. In some cases, beyond.
     
  5. PennyandtheJets

    PennyandtheJets Well-Known Member

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    He hasn't done it in the NFL and that does mean something. Even if he is capable doesn't mean it would actually work out. Our current/projected Oline hasn't played together yet and to add a position change on top of that I think would be asking for trouble. Just my opinion obviously, but I would rather keep him at guard.
     
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  6. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    He played center for us when manigold went down and did a good job. With experience he has gained since then i see no reason he couldnt make the swap.
     
  7. JdotGriff

    JdotGriff Well-Known Member

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    He played close to half a season at center for us when manigold went down. Did well considering how few starts he had at that point.
     
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  8. NCJetsfan

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    I may be mistaken, but I think that they tried Winters at C in TC one year. At least I remember their talking about it. If he did try it, he must not have been very successful, because he's been playing OG, and I've never seen any other mention of it.

    I knew I remembered something about it. Following is the link to a ganggreennation.com article about it.

    https://www.ganggreennation.com/2015/4/29/8513277/brian-winters-will-get-work-at-center

    Yesterday Brian Winters lined up at center with the 2nd team to get much needed reps. Obviously Winters was drafted and played as a guard his first two years with the Jets.

    When asked about the move, Bowles responded:

    We have been moving a lot of guys around early in case of injuries. During the season, a lot of injuries happen. So, a lot of guys have been moving across the line just to get some reps in case of injury.

    That makes perfect sense to me. Although Mangold is highly durable and we do have a promising back-up in Dalton Freeman still on the roster, getting Winters some time at center is a good idea, just in case emergency strikes.

    If I were Winters, I would be welcoming the opportunity to line up at several different spots on the offensive line. It's no secret that Winters has struggled mightily in the NFL since being drafted, after starting the year like a barn door, allowing pressure on a regular basis, his season was ended through injury.

    Aboushi came in and although he struggled, he performed better than Winters. Then we re-sign Colon and sign free agent James Carpenter. I'm sure Winters will get a chance to compete at guard this year but if he is beaten out, he needs to show his value to keep a roster spot. Being able to play both guard positions and center would do that.
     
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  9. Ohnoit'sGeno

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    Jon Feliciano is very good guard who was stuck behind K Osemele, and Gabe Jackson in Oakland. He can back up center too. He just wanted to start somewhere. Can't ever blame a team for trying to upgrade their offense line. Any offense is only as good as the Qb, and the guys up front on the offense line.
     
  10. TonyFtLaud

    TonyFtLaud Well-Known Member

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    He's an avg guard who can't stay healthy. Last 2 years when he actually got some Playing time he ended up on the IR. Was decent in 17, terrible last year when he played.
     
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    That's a depth signing.
     
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    Must be a kiddies pool.....:D
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 2018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Wouldn't it be nice if we talked about depth players as future starters instead of using the term to explain why they were signed at all?
     
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    Fortunately our depth players are future starters... Unfortunately future XFL starters.....
     
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  15. mr nyjet

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    if i was the owner, i would want a nfl rule stating no one player on the roster can exceed 10% of the salary cap.

    think of us when we lost 3 starting o-line because chad got too much. ditto the colts when peyton got injured.

    brady is smart to take less $, so his team has the money to sign decent guys to protect him.

    there are a lot of dumber guys playing elsewhere ( cousins,rodgers)

    who prevent teams from signing o-line vets that are skilled enough due to lack of cap money .
     
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    came out today that bills signed the titans free agent guard. there goes another possibility.
     
  17. NCJetsfan

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    Yep, Quentin Spain.
     
  18. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    That’s actually one of their better signings this year. Morse is OK but the rest of their OL additions before today were meh.
     
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    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    At least they’re trying. I’d rather buy a couple years with some guys toward the end of their career then go in with trash to begin with. Buy us some time to find more permenant fixtures.
     
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  20. NCJetsfan

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    Morse is a lot better than OK. He hasn't given up a sack in 4 years. He's not as good in run blocking as he is in pass blocking, but he's very good in pass blocking, which is the most important thing.
     

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