True but there's an aspect of this human trafficking thing we ignore sometimes with some asians. That's that they do this to come to the US in the first place. Now I'm not saying they agree to all aspects but in order to pay their debt to get to the US, some of these spas are there for just that. Everything isn't black and white. Sometimes people forget that. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
I'm not sure what that's supposed to imply, but thats like comparing apples to bananas. Not even close. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
I have a very Dumbass Patroits fan friend who tried to defend him by saying to me "his wife is dead what would you.." and tried cutting himself off but it was too late and I just smiled at him. My wife died three years ago and while I have dated and had sex since then I'm not a hook up for sex or pay for sex person at all. So yes I condemn people that support human trafficking by paying for sex. He'll most likely get a slap on the wrist and small fine when he should be behind bars IMO. If you want to pay for sex and you have that kind of money go somewhere in the states where it is legal and much less likely to be destroying someone else's life.
I think there are 2 issues with this. In the first instance these women are brought here under the pretense that there will be a legitimate job awaiting them to pay off their debt. Low level job but legal. Second, there has to be a more humane way to pay off your debt than being forced to suck off old rich dudes and not being able to leave. Anything, cleaning, laundry, kitchen help, anything that doesn’t involve ejaculate.
So Bob was helping these girls pay their debt? Bob didn't know they were sex slaves? You want to make the argument that women of free will along with men of free will at the age of consent should be able to have a transactional relationship? Okay not unreasonable but certainly illegal. That's not even remotely what this was. The reason there was a sting operation was the officers said categorically the "John's" in the area all knew this was a sex trafficking operation. The sting of rich, prominent white guys isn't good for these cops. They will likely pay for doing good police work and trying to protect these girls. Politics is going to quietly bite these cops who set up the sting. This isn't remotely two people of sound mind and free will making a transactional agreement about sex. This is the US not China or Russia. Nothing is black or white. Most sexual deviation from the norm is between consenting adults. This isn't that. You don't have to be a Puritan to know this is sleazy. You don't even have to believe in god to know there is a living hell for some people. Bob's wife died I also get that. Bob could have gotten a smart, young women to meet him anywhere and have transactional sex with him. He chose to go to a known sex shop with women who were essentially kept as sex slaves. Bob knows better, Bob has built up his credibility as a pillar of the community over decades. Bob is so entitled at this point in his life he feels he can do anything without consequences. I think part of Bob's deviation is he likes having sex with Asian sex slaves. There's something called acting if that's his thing. Seeking the real deal isn't okay even for entitled Billionairs.
Save the moral lecture for someone who cares. Whether you like it or not, there are women who agree to this. They don't have the resources on their own and they are so desperate to escape, what's actually a far worse life in their country, to come here. I don't know why people like you think every sex worker needs you to save them. Some do, some don't. It's their choice Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Not all of them are in that situation. You don't know every situation. I don't, so I don't care. But like I said, it's very well documented that this is how many poorer asians come into the country Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
So poorer Asians come to this country under the guise of honest work and are forced to have sex with crusty old men, are not permitted to leave, and because you choose not to believe it you don’t care about that? Because there are also legit prostitutes? The sex “slave” part is lost on you? This isn’t a high horse morality stance. I couldn’t give a crap what two consenting adults do. It’s the not consenting part that kind of mucks it up for me.
The contract of living in a relatively free society that allows large deviation from the norm doesn't mean there are no boundaries. If you don't think sex trafficking is beyond the boundary you need a moral lecture.
That's simply not true either. Many of them do in fact know this. I wrote a 20 page research study on this year's ago. We Americans use the term sex slave, but thats not always the case. Is not rocket science, they're coming to a new country with no skills, no degrees and no money. Where else are they going to make the kind of money they make doing this even if they only let 30 to 40 percent? You think they dont think about this. You think they're so stupid that they just think they're coming here to work at McDonald's and struggle? I'm not saying sex slaves don't happen, they certainly do, but to act like everyone needs to be saved if they're a sex worker is foolish. You don't think China, Vietnam, Korea and, Thailand as countries don't have a vested intrest in stopping that? Or North Koreans? And again I can't say it enough. I don't have strong feelings on this topic so I don't care. I'm not going to pretend to be outraged because it's a rival teams owner Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
So I can feign outrage like you? No thanks, I'm doing just fine. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
This is basically my point above. He has the money to hire consenting women to do pretty much whatever he wants. He chose to essentially slum it which in the sex trade means something nefarious is very possible to be going on. I legitimately hope for the best that they are just filling a handjob quota then are free to leave, but it is also possible they are being held against their will, as well i am yet to see anything about the age of these women. I am NOT accusing Kraft of soliciting minors, it is a horrendous crime and should not be mentioned lightly. However with trafficking involved and the FBI conducting a months long investigation it isn't crazy to fear the worst could be going on. Again, i am not accusing Kraft or anyone of soliciting minors, simply pointing out that there is a possibility and very little information has been released.
It's hardly one. Truth is, we simply don't know why everyone who works there is there. It's such a mix of different lives and situations in a place like that. I reserve judgement Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
It’s not a coincidence that there are vans transporting hundreds of young Asian girls too and from seedy strip mall run and tug parlors up and down both coasts of Florida. They aren’t all consenting prostitutes. I’d guess the far majority are not.
