I respect those opposed but Id like to hear the alternative given that the Jets continue to have zero playmakers offensively & Darnold desperately needs some. Ingram,Coleman, T Williams & Tate maybe marginal upgrades but they are NOT playmakers & dont transcend the firepower of the overall offense. How are we getting more explosive? Who are the playmakers in 2019??
I think the only way I would not like Bell being signed is if Bell was transitioned tagged and the Jets had to give up a pick for him. Bell is a HOF caliber RB. I would seriously front load his contract and guaranteed money, just in case he starts slowing down.
I have stated some stats in other threads. I think there are multiple red flags with signing Bell. The position, age, number of touches, the monster contract he will demand and sitting out an entire season. These are not minor concerns in my eyes. I get that he is/has been a terrific running back who has elite receiving skills, but I just think it would be an utter flop. I can respect anyone who feels differently, but I don't think this would be a winning move. I think the misconception is that the Jets have SO much money so they can sign Bell to a massive front loaded contract and still have room for multiple other key players and positions. The Jets will be lucky if they are able to land 2-3 top notch/elite free agents. The Oline is in complete shambles, the defense doesn't create any pass rush, and yet we are going to sign Bell who has 1900+ touches to a huge contract at a position that has the shortest life span in the NFL? I much prefer going with Tevin Coleman who is slightly younger and has far less touches. He also has very good receiving skills. If neither Bell or Coleman come to the Jets, draft a dude in the 3rd round like every other team and strike gold.
What in god's name makes you think the JETS can strike gold in the third round? We got Herndon in the 4th last year, that's our gem for the next few seasons. Also, Coleman is nowhere near the type of RB Bell is nor does he have the same impact on an offense. Why did a team like Atlanta not lock him up before hitting the market?
The Jets and any team that wants to win, has to hit on their mid round picks. I am not suggesting I have confidence in them to do so, but it is necessary. I never said Coleman was as talented as Bell. Just because Coleman isn't as good as Bell doesn't mean he isn't valuable. What I did say was that he is very solid, has great receiving skills, far less career touches, and is younger. Atlanta didn't lock him up because they have Devonta Freeman.
Devonta Freeman, coming off a 2-game season which is coming off a letdown of a 2017 season. Coleman is complementary back. He can't be your guy, and he certainly can't be your guy with Eli friggen McGuire running next to him. You'd have to sign Coleman to starter money and then pray the draft falls your way. Not a game I'm willing to play when you have a top 3 RB in the league taking phone calls.
No disrespect intended, just trying to talk it through. I like Coleman a lot. If you could guarantee me a power runner that will produce ASAP in the draft I'd sign up for it. There's just no way to do that.
IMO we need, first and foremost, start hitting on all our middle round picks. The two third rounders need to be starters at their respective positions from day one or at least be situational players with significant snaps. Second, come hell and high water, we need to be at the forefront in upgrading our OL in free agency with top tier players. Nothing will help Sam more. There are many teams in the same situation so we must overpay as necessary to be successful if the right player(s) is there. Third, we need to upgrade key positions with second tier free agents that can still contribute and rid ourselves of marginal players. Including a no shit fullback that can catch and protect Sam in passing downs. I'm not against signing Bell, he would give Sam a terrific weapon, but not at the cost of impacting the OL improvements. We do need a RB that defenses will respect, may be not at Bell level, but next level down. The Pats seem to do wonders with just about any RB just by the strength of their OL and pay calling.
This free agent class has some really nice "2nd tier" options. Signing Bell is a win now move and I am not sure any of us can honestly say that the Jets are ready to win this upcoming season. Bell going to the Texans or Chiefs makes much more sense for those teams than it does for the Jets.
Bell is 27, how is it win now? I know... the touches... but he's the kind of player that can very easily play into his 30s. He doesn't absorb big hits and he took an entire year off. If we sign Bell, give Sam help at WR, improve the OL and get ourselves a pass rush (all possible with the money and picks we have) then we are absolutely ready to make the playoffs.
I can live with this contract. However there has to be escape clauses in case he wants to light up a blunt on the streets of NJ / NY.
This is the most legit concern of all of them that have been brought up. Bell is not a bright guy and he's a strike away from being Martavis Bryant if I'm not mistaken. The rules are stupid, there's no question about that, but I'm not 100% confident that Bell will still follow them.
I just wanna know when having an actual PLAYMAKER..Not 2nd tier, not a complimentary piece..not fix the OL first,not take our chances in the draft..when that will take precedent? Its been the one constant since Rex if not prior.Weve had good defenses,weve had top performming OLs & weve had decent ball control offenses. But never a gamechanging skill..and its held even the good Jet teams back. Seems like anytime a player like Bell becomes available we want to avoid that risk to either to find an answer in the draft or wait till next year after filling other needs. The team simply will not prioritize skill in the draft..and when theyve tried theyve failed MISERABLY. Im fully expecting a defense heavy draft. So while i understand the pause associated w Bell id like to know how we can simply turn the other cheek & not sign him when we know that Sam likely isnt getting any other true upgrades or gamechangers to distrubute passes. So another year of dry,ball control, conservative offense in a league of explosion. If not this year with Bell..when?
I don't think we are neglecting skill position talent by going after Tevin Coleman. The guy would be a great fit for this team.
Penny, I respect you & ill even go as far as to say i LIKE coleman.But he is 2nd tier..you said so yourself & hes not scaring any opposing DCs or taking over a game. Not complimentary pieces..not 2nd tier..an actual top flight gamechanger who god forbid might actually start for someones fantasy team
Coleman just needs more opportunities to shine. Dude had 9 TD's last season in a complimentary role. (4 rushing/5 receiving) Last 3 seasons, Coleman has had 10, 11, and 9 TDs. That's pretty impressive production. Maybe even fantasy worthy I see Coleman as a guy that can touch the ball 18-25 times a game (15-18 rushes and 3-7 catches per game). He averaged 4.8 yards per carry last season and is a threat catching the ball. Maybe he isn't as good as bell, but I think he is more than good enough to win with. Runningbacks = Dime a Dozen
Running backs like Coleman are a dime a dozen. There aren't even half a dozen backs in Bell's league. Coleman isn't built to run the ball 18 times a game. That would be almost doubling the workload he's had the last two years. He's been so successful because he's a complementary back and I think any team that tries to make him anything more than that will deeply regret it unless they already have a legit downhill runner on board.
