The Official 2019-20 Mike MacCagnan thread..

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Cman68, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    There is no argument for Bowles. Abject failure.

    I'm torn on Mac.

    I cannot forgive Stewart, Hansen, Donahue and as much as he was shooting for the moon on Hack--that was his most despicable gamble. Awful.

    I can forgive Smith and somewhat Mauldin for injuries and Petty was a backup QB that is still kicking around as a backup.

    I will be eternally grateful for the trade up to get Sam.

    Even though Adams was the obvious pick he didn't whiff on him and notwithstanding some troll calling Leo fat with a shitty haircut, he was absolutely the right pick.

    [BTW: what adult really gives a flying fuck about haircuts? Could be a gender dysphoria thing that dude should get checked out.]

    Love Herndon. Hate Robee the person but he's a player. McGuire, as much as folks hate on him here, he was a freaking 6th rounder and he's scoring TDs and converting 4th downs. Trade up for Shell? Anderson for a 7th? Myers? Let's not forget Lac Edwards--a position that has been barren for years.
     
  2. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Two questions. Where do you rank this roster from 1-32? Disregard coaching. And how much of that is on Mac?
     
  3. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    I believe Mac is staying but he's on a very short leash. If this isn't a monumentally better offseason regarding personnel brought into the franchise then he'll be gone. Darnold bought him this year. And you can also say he deserves to have his players see how they perform under a competent coach. Bowles is maybe the worst in the league now that Hue Jackson has been relegated to Bengals mascot being stared down by Mayfield

    However if the Jets feel they can snag a better GM to pair with (and can work with Harbaugh) by all means thank Mac for Darnold and boot him out the door

    I think if they were looking for a new GM though you'd be hearing rumblings about it like with Harbaugh, like with Bowles

    But there's no smoke regarding that.
     
  4. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Not sure you can separate coaching from the equation.
     
  5. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    It isn't easy but if you want to decide whether we should keep Mac that's what you have to do.
     
  6. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    I think we are a .500 team with a better HC.
     
  7. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    We’re not “we”.

    We’re just fans.

    Guessing.
     
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  8. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Sad but true...the Owners are making these changes ...they are like the old German expression "too soon Old ..too late Shmart"

    Maybe they ask Mac what to do...in that case 3 heads put together yields a 100 (ave) IQ. (..laughing and crying)
     
  9. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Take a read at a lot of my posts over the last year...I think that is exactly what transpired..Bowles had his dirty hands on many moronic decisions imo

    And dummy MM went along with it
     
  10. DevTeam

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    I've been on this message board so long, most of the people on here are probably younger than me now. Firing Maccagnan won't accomplish anything except to send this program back a couple of years at this point. The new GM will want his picks to succeed, etc. It's best to give this guy another year or two and see if we can get some tangible results next year. We have a franchise QB (that he drafted!!!) - give him a chance to close it out. If we still suck next year and the year after, time to move on.
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    It’s sad but not missing on 1st rounders and not making cap crippling contracts - ie basic shit -!is like 100x better than what we’ve had in the past
     
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  12. HomeoftheJets

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    Compared to Idzik yes. Compared to Tanny no.
     
  13. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    Welp. we can have Tanny back in a few days if we want
     
  14. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Sounds like Mac is getting neutered no matter who the coach is
     
  15. Sam Hammer

    Sam Hammer Well-Known Member

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    But how many 1st round busts did Tanny have? Quite a lot. Macc doesn't have one yet.
     
  16. HomeoftheJets

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    There's a lot more to being a GM than avoiding first round busts.
     
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  17. Red Menace

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    The HC better be Harbaugh if that’s the case, who else are Jets going to hire that is worthy of getting keys to kingdom?

    Shannahan, Harbaugh, Mcarthy are only guys I would give that much power to.
     
  18. Sam Hammer

    Sam Hammer Well-Known Member

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    Sure there is, but Tanny had like 3 first round busts in 4 years from early first round picks and it set the franchise back MUCH MUCH MORE than missing on a bunch of 2nds and 3rds. Hitting on first rounders is more critical than the later picks and most GMs can't even do that.
     
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  19. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    i'm not crazy about any one of them being the almighty either
     
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  20. SOJAZ

    SOJAZ Well-Known Member

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    Tanny ...OOL that guy was a fking joke. he bankrupted the Jets with his decisions.. Please
     

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