If he can keep it up, I think those “big fish” coaches are going to be knocking on our door. Sure we are bottom feeders right now, but that could change by week 17. Can Mccarthy and either Harbaugh resist a 22 year old stud with clean sheet and massive cap room? Here’s to Sam. Tear it up son!
Personally, I don't want either of them but I agree that we should be able to get a good one because of him.
Whats the knock on McCarthy? Im not sure why he was fired...i know the Packers have under achieved but couldn't that be because Rogers rarely stays healthy for a whole season?
Packers underachieved this year, and McCarthy/Rodgers are having some tantrum issue. The franchise went with Rodgers. Now, the knock on McCarthy is, he has no fucking idea how to handle defense. When Dom Capers did all the dirty work, they went all the way. And that was not that good; they went 10-6, and went to the playoff as a wildcard. McCarthy is a flawed coach in this regard. But if we are talking flawed coaching prospect, maybe it is a better idea to go with someone that knows how to construct offense [McCarthy] over someone who knows how to construct defense [Rex Ryan, et al]
I think many here vastly overestimate certain factors as decision makers for coaches when it comes to taking a job. There are only 32 of these jobs on the whole planet and only a handful come vacant every year. The pool of applicants is in the hundreds and a few dozen get seriously considered when you count NFL guys and NCAA guys. It would be the rare guy who would turn down an opportunity to be one of the elite 32 based on location, ownership, "culture," history, uniforms. The coach I want has the confidence to believe those things that he might view as less than perfect won't touch him because his, and the team's, performance won't allow it.
Can we please make sure Bowles is gone first???? I don't trust the Johnsons at all...they need to be humiliated with two more losses by our team imo It's a pick um against Green Bay and sorry I would prefer to get some insurance firing the Toilet in another competitive loss
I've seen a ton of Packer games over the years. Most of their chunk plays seem like they come after the play that was constructed broke down.
I disagree. I think it is you who underestimate those factors as to why a potential HC candidate wouldn't want a job. With the Jets, the crux of the problem lies at the top. Woody is clueless. Chris is only marginally better. They want to be involved in the day-to-day operations and decisions by the team. They are dilettantes. They meddle. Their decisions are based upon whims of the moment and who catches their ear. Would you want to work for an employer like that? I sure as heck would not. Then there's the lousy history of the team, the lack of talent, the lack of culture/identity, a GM that is not good in the draft or FA, the glaring spotlight in NY with rabid fans who are ready to boo and want someone fired, and then there are people who are from the west coast/midwest/deep south/more rural areas who have little or no desire to live and work in the northeast due to expense, weather/climate, congestion, etc. There could be a plethora of reasons why a potential candidate wouldn't want the Jets job, and I couldn't blame them one iota. The pool of applicants is in the hundreds? Ok, whatever you say. IMO that's a gross exaggeration. In reality, the pool of serious, potential candidates is usually around 3-5.
That was the biggest point of contention between Rodgers and McCarthy. If you watch some of the tape on Packers games, Rodgers often passes up the first open Reciever, looking for a bigger gain. Often it ends up being a play to that primary Reciever, deeper down field.
I don't really care if the Jets get the big name coach just that they get the right coach. See Frank Reich and Indianapolis Colts as an example of that. They Colts were lucky that McDaniels backed out of that job. Reich may have been their 2nd choice but it turns out he was the right hire for them. If the Colts somehow make the playoffs I could see Reich getting some votes for coach of the year. I hope the Jets can find the right coach for them and us the fans.
Agreed it doesn't take a rare coach to take a Head coaching gig. It takes a rare coach to demand control of the football operation and get a contract that allows them to implement that control. The Jets need someone who's more than just willing to lick the hand of the owner and his family when they show up. The pool of exceptional people with the inner confidence and ability to shape the organization and create a winning culture is like finding a needle in a haystack.
The more I think about it, the more I'd be OK with McCarthy as a coach. He deserves some of the credit for where Rodgers is at today. He's not my first choice, but I wouldn't be mad at it.
Sure you've got a promising young QB and a ton of cap space. But you've also go the Johnsons and a clueless Front office which are red flags. Also the NY spotlight isn't for everyone. Also the Jets are generally thought of as a bumbling franchise over the years by most outsiders looking in. So you have to take the good with the bad when putting yourselves in the shoes of prospective coaching candidates.
Okay, I really don't think ownership is a problem by "meddling," in fact if anything, a guy coming into a job here may get the idea that the team is running on automatic and no one is at the wheel. There's an office at the end of the hall where the door is usually closed and nd the lights are out. There is no Jerry Jones here running up and down the sidelines and passing judgement on everything from the mustard on the hot dogs to a fourth down decision. I don't see any evidence there is involvement by Woody Johnson at all, there's not supposed to be, and I see barely minimal exposure of Chris. Many games he's not even shown in a box - does he even go to all the games? Who knows what decisions they make and how they get to one? I would only want a clear picture of the process and consistency to climb on board. The lousy history is the lousy history; it is in the past and a new coach should be looking forward, not back. The lack of talent is something that gets addressed going forward and will be a challenge but that's no different than half the teams in the league. A new coach would want to build his own culture and identity if he believes he can put his mark on the team and if he doesn't believe he can, I don't want him. I also don't want a guy who feels a need to respond, much less react to what gets posted here, put on a billboard or towed behind an airplane - he should have the confidence that he knows more than you or I do about winning football games. Same with the media. A guy who is worried about hearing boos shouldn't even get a courtesy interview; anybody who hears the boos should understand why they're rolling down off the stands - fans here may be rabid but are largely knowledgeable also. Relocating may be a problem for some provincial small timers, but that's okay too; again, there are only 32 of these jobs out there that all pay well enough to not have the holder worried about the cost of living; if these things are going to be a problem for someone and they don't view them as a challenge, I don't want him.. The weather and congestion is the same for half the league but no other area offers the advantages of being at the marketplace of the world. You're looking at one side of the situation and I want a guy with a much more positive attitude. What NFL team wants a coach who is afraid of a traffic jam or a little snow or rain? And yes, there are hundreds of guys in the pool of applicants. Each NFL team has over a dozen coaches, big NCAA programs have more, the numbers add up fast, A few dozen, as I said, are in contention today; there's even a list of about a dozen on another thread that brings up someone new almost every day. There will be only a handful of finalists but I certainly hope the team is looking beyond them today.
How is Jeremy Bates doing in that regard? Do you think he could make Rodgers fling chunk plays just as well? [If you didn't realize yet, YES, THEY DO PRACTICE THESE BROKEN PLAYS TOO.]
Chris insists on watching the all-22 in real time in his bunker beneath the 50-yard line. Then he studies the tape and doesn't emerge until Wednesday afternoon.
