Beloved figure Should've dumped this human pile of excrement after week 17 Buffalo in the 2015 season
There is enough blame to go around between the coaching staff and the management for this latest version of yet another disappointing Jets' grounding. The problem continues to be a very unfavorable perception of the franchise, which makes it difficult to lure quality coaching and front office personnel. How many coaches and GMs have the Jets employed over the years, who have done virtually nothing after leaving the team? Understandably, coming to the Jets is obviously seen, more or less, as a career suicide move. In addition, the ownership is not helping, in failing to market the team in a more attractive and desirable light. If the ownership cannot properly take care of their fans, do not expect them to acquire and maintain high-end personnel. All this must work in unison in order to achieve sustainable success.
One pick (Darnold) is not a lifeline when that pick is still completely unproven and the large majority of his draft picks have been busts. It's about his entire body of work which is clearly a fail. In no way should Mac be retained.
I’ve been criticizing Mac since before it is cool so I’m not saying this rooting for it to happen but, Macs not getting fired this year. Macs promotion getting fired next year either. He is going to get a few years with a coach he chooses. That’s the way it seems to be setting up right now.
Mike M. passed on Mahomes and Watson and went after a bunch of non players for four years and the Johnson's still have this loser employed. Same old Jets. He better be gone.
I hear you and you may be right. If so, this franchise is really f*cked. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand how bad this guy really is.
He was lucky mostly that season. All our success was from Gailey having a good year with the O. Our defense (as been a constant theme) underachieved. Week 17 just showed what an inept shit Bowles is. All I needed to know about him I learned that game. And since then he's gone 13-31.
And if Mac bombs the offseason and the losing continues, we're just gonna keep him for a few more years?
TBH, I didn't think he should've been fired after his first season, but I did have a big question about him after that game. But when he went 5-11 the next year, and continued to make the same kind of mistakes, I was convinced he had to go after his 2nd year. And to be fair, it's really hard to be a HC. There's a lot of things that a HC is responsible for way beyond what any DC or OC has to do, and even for the guys who succeed it usually takes a couple of years to learn it all. But a lot of guys just don't have what it takes to do this. Bowles falls into that category, and it was obvious after his second season. He should already have been fired, and it's only testimony to the Johnson Boys cluelessness that he's still on the sidelines.
Mahomes and Watson wouldn't be looking as good as they are if they were drafted here. Darnold is the real deal, but he has NO chance for success the way this team is structured right now.
Not really true though that is it. He chose Adams and the other two were gone before we drafted again. Hindsight selecting is always easy though Go through that draft and just see what we could have had
I think he is here for 3 more minimum. He’ll get tied to the new coach. Figure a new coach wil het 3 years minimum so yea. Not sure why autocorrect changed probably to promotion in the post you quoted but it did. Fuck off autocorrect.
To be honest I really didn't think or call for his ouster after year 1 either but that was extremely troubling at how poorly prepared they were in playing Buffalo The 2nd year was such a disaster. That should've been a good team but they quit on their coach and Bowles could not control the locker room. And what did he even show last year to warrant an extension. Also look at his ousting of Morton. Morton was no offensive guru but he got our 2017 offense to overachieve with McCown with the personnel we had. Yet Bowles ousts him over philosophical differences. Bowles somehow wanted us to be more ground and pound, not even realizing we don't have the personnel. So we bring in someone worse in Bates. Morton was right, Bowles was wrong. Yes Bowles has final say and we take a step back
Quite a few here wanted Watson or Mahomes before the selection was made. I like Adams, but he won't have nearly the same impact as a FQB and we didn't have to give up three 2nd's for either one.
Morton was good until he got a 14 point lead then he fell to pieces OR somebody did as in som any games they started to play not to lose from winning positions only to throw game after game away. Saying that if we won those games it is doubtful Darnald would be here now.
if you don't have the talent then you need to have the coaching and schemes to try and make the most of what you do have and mask your inadequacies - we have done none of that (in fact it feels like the opposite) - I agree even a top tier coach would not land the superbowl with this team but it would be an awful lot better and a lot more competitive than it is Mind it is largely about the QB position and offensive playcalling - you just have to look at the team leading each division and who they have at QB Patriots - top tier QB Chiefs - top tier QB Steelers - top tier QB Texans - top tier QB Rams - top tier QB Saints - top tier QB Cowboys are leading a very mixed bag NFC East by just a single game and the Bears are leading a weird NFC North due to their defense for the most part.(Bears have the highest turnover differential in the NFL) Sure you can have a great QB and still struggle if the rest of the team is not performing (see Packers & Falcons) but having a top tier QB gives you such a massive advantage in today's NFL that we have to get away from this defensive bias draft strategy we seem to have had for the last decade.
That is still not passing on him, that is choosing another player and not reaching at 6 for a QB that some people had doubts about. Not sure how reliable these sites are but just ones I look at around draft time. http://www.draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=130891&draftyear=2017&genpos=QB This has him rated only the 4th best QB in the draft http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125 This one has him down as a round 1 or 2 pick, that is a long way shy of the number 6 pick overall Yes a couple of people liked him and they lucked out with that opinion, other people like all sorts of players and they crash and burn, hell some people like everybody and so they are never wrong lol
Like the O-Line, Maccagnan has woefully mismanaged the QB position since he's been here, aside from the initial acquisition of Fitzpatrick. Passing on both Watson and Mahomes is going to haunt this franchise for quite a while.
