Darnold was the jets guy all along, They were shocked he fell. full details of the war room

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  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Which, while true, is totally irrelevant to the point I made. Who needs a head coach with a quitter's attitude?
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You only see it as irrelevant because it's not convenient to the point you made.
     
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  3. JohnnyJet1222

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    This Post story to me means absolutely nothing. There is no way we will ever know who the top QB was on the Jets board. The only fact we do know is the Jets liked Darnold more than Rosen, Allen and Jackson. I think you could find instances like this for all the QBs. If for some reason the Jets had Mayfield number one on their board what would it accomplish to say that. None, so this story makes it seem like the Jets got what they really wanted. No story just writers trying to drum up readers. I'm pretty sure that when the Jets play Cleveland this year and if it's Darnold vs Mayfield the stories will abound. Darnold wins with 5 TDs and we were justified. If Mayfield wins with 5 TDs then the stories will be that the browns stole him from us. Just the press being the press.
     
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    Bowles shutting it down at the end of the 1st half is a trait that you'd expect out of a guy who played for Joe Gibbs and coached under Bill Parcells.

    Both of those guys were notorious for not making a bad situation worse under 2 minutes to go in the half. Both of them also had shaky QB situations now and then and both won Super Bowls in years in which the roster was stacked but the backup QB was on the field in the big game.

    Holding the end of the 1st half against Bowles is not really fair because he is doing things the way he has seen excellent coaches do them and he has a lot less talent to work with than they typically did.
     
  5. LF911SC

    LF911SC Well-Known Member

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    Also there is the point that sometimes its better to lick your wounds, go into the locker and come out swinging. There are times a coach or manager would rather walk off with the feeling you can regroup as opposed to depressed you threw that pick.

    As to the quitting part of the equation, Morton was the quitter, he admitted it. Funny Bowles gets killed because fans think as a defensive HC he seperates himself from the O. Until theyre pissed at a play call. Then they blame it on Bowles
     
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    Not if he doesn't play. That Hackenberg training wheels method won't fly anymore.
     
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    I have this feeing if Sam even looks halfway ready through the summer & pre-season, that Bowles and co will feel 'pressured' or at least more inclined to start him Week 1.
     
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    Are you really saying that when the quarterback sucks the coach is okay to stop trying to win games?
     
  9. Ralebird

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    Your point would be easier to take if I could remember a game in which he brought the team out "swinging" in the second half. The head coach is responsible for the entire team and the entire game plan - he doesn't get a pass because the guys who work for him screw things up - he owns it.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You don't win games in the final seconds of the second quarter.
     
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    Guess you know better. The HC delegates responsibilities. I know that sucks when you want to blame the coach. But that's how most teams operate, especially on one side of the ball. And there is something to be said about not making a big mistake with a minute before the half. Especially with a young team you're trying to develop.
     
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    I think people doubting that Darnold was on top of the Jets board is pretty absurd. Very few experts ranked Mayfield above Darnold and the icing on the cake is Cleveland took Mayfield so it's practically guaranteed that was a horrendous move that only Cleveland would make and the Jets wouldn't have.

    Having let the whole thing sink in a little bit, I have far more admiration for Mac's trade up when he did it. It's just so likely that Cleveland is going to spazz and the signs were all there that the Giants would stay Pat with Eli. It was really a brilliant piece of work, he gave the Jets a smart gamble to essentially get the first pick while only paying third pick price. He saw an inch of daylight far in front of him and hit it full force with no hesitation. That move is everything.

    I definitely want to give Mac a new lease on life after this, and now watching Bowls show some life and emotion it gives me pause for hope that he can grow as a HC when given real weapons to work with.

    Maybe I'm just deluding myself but I think there's a real chance Darnold steps in and ends a half century of work for this fan base. Like anything is possible now.
     
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  13. Walt White

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    Exactly. The notion that he is a quitter is ridiculous.
     
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    Ehhh not sure, he punted down 10 points at midfield with around 5 minutes left on a 4th and short against Pittsburgh like 2 years back, Pittsburgh was the best offense in the league at the time. He basically forfeited
     
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  15. Walt White

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    Ehh, I'm sure. He's not
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Do you have examples that aren't from 2 years ago?
     
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    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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    Yes.... 4th and 8 with 4 minutes left down 9 pts from the jets 44 yard line in the opening game last season Vs the bills, Todd punts and forfeits the game
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    They should have gone for it with 4 minutes left on their own side of the field?
     
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    6-10 once again Well-Known Member

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    Ummm, down 9 on basically midfield .... that's an easy yes. They didn't see the ball again till 9 seconds basically, it's a forfeit. Best case was he got the ball back with 2 mins left no timeouts down 2 scores
     
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  20. Walt White

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    No he didn't. He tried to pin them down deep in their own end because it would be easier to stop them down there in theory. He wanted to make the stand down there instead of mid-field and then go for the two scores with the onside kick. Not only would it be harder to stop them at mid-field but that field position would make scoring a field goal at least that much easier for them and make it necessary to score two TD's then.. HC's put games in the hands of their D often with the hope of a stop for better field position.
    The situation was a bad one one any way you look at it. But that it didn't work makes it easy for some fans to second guess with simplistic ideas and even come up with psychological notions about the guy.
     
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