Big Mac says QB position is an open competiton and darnold can win

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    While Browns coach Hue Jackson has made it clear that top draft pick Baker Mayfield will start his career as Tyrod Taylor's backup, the Jets are taking a different approach with their own first-round quarterback, Chris Wesseling of NFL.com reports. .

    Appearing on Wednesday's edition of The Rich Eisen Show, Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan confirmed that No. 3 overall pick Sam Darnold will compete with veteran incumbent Josh McCown for the starting job.

    "We're going to basically expose him to everything," Maccagnan said. "We're going to give him the opportunity to go out there [and learn] the position. But of course our focus is not necessarily to throw him into the fire until he's earned it.

    "But we're very excited about him and his upside potential. ... He's going to have every opportunity to go out there and hopefully fulfill every potential we see in him."

    Not satisfied with that equivocal answer, Eisen asked point-blank if Darnold will have the opportunity to earn the Week 1 nod.

    "Nothing's been predetermined one way or another," Maccagnan explained, "There's a chance for anything on the table. Nothing's been sort of set in stone in terms of how we're going to do this in terms of a firm time frame. But he's going to have every opportunity and we'll see how it develops going forward."
     
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    I just saw the interview. Its good to know while nothing will be handed to him he has a chance. In essence this should be the case at every position in the offseason so players are motivated to train hard and come into camp in great shape. Its only May and I cant wait for training camp already lol
     
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    I hope Bowles heard this interview.
     
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    Is there a vid of the interview yet?
     
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    inb4 Todd Bowles doesn't start young players.

    But seriously, may the best QB win the job. Teddy will have to light it up. McCown won the job last year despite a severe lack of reps. So the same should happen here. McCown, a small amount of reps is sufficient.
     
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    I fully expect the same structure we saw last year where mccown gets out of the way for most of the preseason games and gives teddy and Sam ( and I guess petty/hack) every opportunity to win the job
     
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    Should be interesting to see what they do with Petty and Hack in terms of transactions and timing. One will probably get cut before OTAs or even a possible trade (apparent Petty trade rumors). Wonder what will happen to the other guy. Not enough reps to go around with Hack and Petty.
     
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    I don't think they do anything with them, unless they actually manage a trade for Petty.

    They will hold both because the risk of Bridgewater not making it through is too great. While neither Petty nor Hackenberg likely has a future here, both are familiar with the program and can serve as a 3rd should they need to.

    Hackenberg has the tie breaker in that he's got more years left on his rookie contract. The reason to keep Petty anyway is in case Petty significantly outplays Hackenberg in the preseason to where you just cut Hackenberg outright.

    Both of them are basically serving as disaster insurance at this point (or in Bridgewater's case, anticipated scenario insurance).
     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ter-healthy-and-throwing-mike-maccagnan-says/

    Mac said Teddy is healthy now. if he's healthy, then there's no reason to keep Hack and Petty on the roster. They haven't brought anything of value to this team. Sam and Teddy need all of the reps with McCown getting the leftovers. Its a waste of time for Hack and Petty to get reps. I would put Hack on the practice squad too unless he really shows HUGE improvement, I mean like starting QB quality type improvement.
     
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    He is healthy now, doesn't mean he's guaranteed to hold up once his body is under duress. That is the real challenge. The Jets need to give him significant playing time during the preseason to ensure he can hold up.

    If I were running it, I would give McCown one drive each preseason game, with Bridgewater and Darnold getting the rest of the reps. I wouldn't even play Petty or Hackenberg. Let those two take mental reps and potentially show during practice that they deserve more than that at this point.

    Like I said, insurance. Not a factor in which the team needs to lean on.
     
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    Do you feel its worth having those 2 extra QBs on the side when they aren't getting any reps at all? I would think that would sour on them. I would do the same exact thing that Bowles did last year, give McCown reps here and there, but Teddy and Sam would take the majority of the reps in practice and in preseason. I guess you could keep either Hack or Petty as insurance, but that insurance would run out quickly if Teddy shows the ability to take a hit and get up.
     
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    They will both be cut or traded before the start of camp assuming Bridgewater is healthy. Probably the only reason one hasn't be released already. There aren't enough reps to go around and that makes eveyrbody worse.
     
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    Makes sense.

    I'm still expecting McCown to start day 1, but it's nice that Mac and Bowles are giving him a chance to start day 1.

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    really trying to lose that award I see :D
     
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    First, I don't think Petty or Hackenberg have earned the right to be sour. That is a non factor to me because if they do act sour, good luck to them finding a new job.

    As far as keeping them, I'd rather keep them around considering the investment we've made in both rather than sign some shitty journeyman 4th who offers nothing more than a body.

    Hackenberg can still be added to the practice squad, and given more time to eventually become a minimally competent backup. The physical ability is there, it is just a matter if he puts in the work. Long shot, but what is the alternative?

    Petty's only avenue is Bridgewater not making it through and clearly being ahead of Hackenberg. Under these exact conditions, he goes into the season the #3. Otherwise, he's out.

    There is the case that one or both of these guys have reached the point of no return. I can see that logic, but I would question why they haven't been cut already if that were the case. The logical answer I reach is that it isn't the case today.
     
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    Haha, you know damn well players that don't deserve something still go out and sulk about it. There is no room for them on this team IMO. Plus thats 2 roster spots that can be used for other players. Perhaps you find a diamond in the rough.

    The Petty / Hack investment was over the min Mac made that trade and selected a QB. I wouldn't mind Hack on a practice squad since he won't take up a roster spot. Physical is there, but the last time I checked, this game is mostly mental and Hack still ain't there. He plays scared, can't go through basic reads in a real life game and takes too many sacks.

    To me Petty is good as gone, I hope he finds better luck elsewhere. I think Teddy will make it through. That freak injury set him back, but Teddy has been through so much adversity in his life, I think he will bounce back.
     
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    I think one will be gone, probably Petty. I could see the Jets keeping Hack at least through training camp to see how he does. If they think Darnold will be in a position to start by early to mid-year, then if Hack shows any potential to be an NFL QB in training camp then I think he sticks around, mostly because I think Bridgewater becomes trade bait, particularly if he looks good and healthy in the preseason. Wait for a contending team to have a QB injury (or very poor play from their QB) and then trade them Bridgewater for a draft pick (if they're really desperate maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick) or trade him for another player who could help the team. Bridgewater has a very team friendly one year deal and if he can show he's healthy he has potentially significant value to a team in need of a QB hoping to contend. Bridgewater will not want to stick around to be Darnold's back up next year, so there's really no reason to hold on to him if a decent offer shows up.
     
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    Personally I'd like to see McCown start the season, and if playing well continue with him.
    Last season he was playing like a top half QB with little supporting cast, which is way better than we've had in some time.

    Darnold is a very promising long term investment, and imo needs a little time to grow.
    I'm very excited to see him play, but putting him out there too soon could have adverse effects.
    His 2018 on the Jets is a learning year in lieu of playing another year of college ball.
    Let him watch and learn from a high character guy like McCown. That's the best situation for Darnold to be in.
     
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    Between Petty and Hack, can one be a serviceable backup for us?

    Teddy only here one year, if he's even ready to play this year. And McCown already 39, maybe he has one or two years left.
    We might find ourselves with zero QB depth as soon as 2019.
    I might consider keeping one of those QB's so we won't need to draft another backup.....probably Hack.
     
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    I don't think Hack can same with Petty. They weren't able to win games or even get on the field.

    Might be better to address this via FA next off-season. I look at what the Eagles did, the Jets could look to do something similar at a lower price.
     

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