Hackenberg - interesting take

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  1. johnny

    johnny Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I believe they paid too much for McCown. I doubt any other team was beating down his door. I would have been much happier with a $5-7M contract.
     
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  2. Cman69

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    I didn't hear or read anything saying that. If you got a link, please share. Far as I know, McCown was in line for some fast food and next thing you know, he's the 2018 starting QB of the NYJ's.
     
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    I'm still trying to understand how McCown managed to get a $4mil raise. I guess all he had to do was show up.
     
  4. johnny

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    Can I get a job with the Jets :).
     
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  5. NYJetsO12

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    Can you run to Starbucks? Mac says YES!
     
  6. NCJetsfan

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    Funny that he doesn't mention Petty at all.

    I disagree with Mehta, but that's no surprise. Even though I doubt that Hack will ever develop, I also doubt if any other team would have any interest in him. Hack is still here because he's insurance of a sort, because he's still young and could potentially develop, and probably because Mac doesn't want to admit that he blew the pick.

    Look at it this way. Bridgewater is coming off a major injury and may never be the same player. Even if he makes the team, which is no guarantee at this point, he could be injured again in practice or on the field. McCown has an injury history and is likely to go down with at least a somewhat serious injury at some point during the season. Let's say that Mac cut Hack now, and went with McCown, Teddy and the rookie. In week 2, McCown goes down with a season and career-ending injury. Week 7 Teddy goes down with a somewhat serious injury. What's Mac supposed to do then, just go with the rookie at QB? He would look like a fool for cutting Hack at point.

    Even though Teddy and the rookie are likely to get most of the snaps in TC and preseason, McCown will get enough to get him ready, and Hack will get some. They could stash Hack on the PS, and then God forbid, both McCown and Teddy go down with an injury, Mac would have a backup that already knows the offense.

    IMO it makes no sense to cut Hack now. Cut Petty certainly, but not Hack.
     
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    Still having VinnyT flashbacks are we? :)
     
  8. Red Menace

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    This was from an article that for some reason I can't share.

    "By later that morning, Tuesday, [the Jets] were talking McCown with [agent Mike] McCartney. But Buffalo also was seriously interested in McCown, so the Jets put their best contractual foot forward there and ensured they’d keep the trusted veteran who played so well last year."
     
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  9. SOJAZ

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    Frankly, I disagree. The article about pulling the offer is telling in that Johnson didn't speak to toilet ... In the corporate world, that means trouble with thE boss and just maybe he is not or no longer on eQual footing with Mac.
     
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  11. NCJetsfan

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    If you're referring to '99, no, not really, but I thought it was dumb of Parcells to go into that season with only one QB. It was just asking for trouble, and karma's a bitch. I just think it's common sense. Injuries are a fact of life in the NFL just as much for QBs as for other players, if not more. The Jets also had 2 QBs go down with injuries in one game, so we know firsthand that anything can happen.

    You have three QBs - One QB is an older, injury-prone QB. Another of your QBs is coming off major injury, and even if he's 100%, he may not ever be the same player he was, and/or may be more susceptible to getting re-injured. In addition, he has a slight frame anyway, and with the Jets' OL, he may not stand up to a full season of pounding even if he's perfectly healthy and not susceptible to being re-injured. Your third QB is a rookie, who may not be ready to play in the NFL, but even if he is, he would still need a backup in case he got injured.

    Finally, in Hack the Jets have a fourth QB who has talent, is cheap, and he's only 23 years old. Why get rid of him just because fans don't like or believe in him, when they can stash him on the PS in case of need, and also giving him another year to develop? I forget who, but in an article I read within the last week or two, the author said it can take QBs up to 4 years to develop. Wouldn't Mac look really stupid to just release Hack only to see him go to another team and put everything together and become a quality starting QB, and then see the rookie he drafts with the 3rd pick bust (Allen) or get another concussion or two and be out of the NFL in 2 years (Rosen)? There's no need to rush releasing Hack.

    Mehta probably doesn't care about Hack at all. He just sees it as an opportunity to bash Mac and the Jets.
     
  12. Mainejet

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    Their days are numbered, that's for sure. I'm convinced they will not go with 4 QB's and by TC they will have 3 QB's guaranteed a roster spot not named Petty or Hack. The whole accusation that Mac doesn't want to admit his mistake just doesn't make any sense to me? He's already been called everything but a white man in the past. So cutting him now can't increase the criticism, it'll just be an acknowledgement of what they already knew?
     
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  13. The Dark Knight

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    I'd keep Hackenberg for Training Camp and hope he shows progress. Petty clearly should have been released by now though.
     
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    You may be right on the reality of the situation. However, what I see as trouble is that an anti-Maccagnan faction inside One Jets Drive appears to have Mehta's ear and access to his column to snipe at Maccagnan. That's never a good thing. Of course, a lot depends on who the fifth column is. Mehta's a jump-on-the-bandwagon guy, so he must feel the sniping at Maccagnan will gain traction.
     
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    He surpassed expectations last year and not by a little bit either. Same as Fitzpatrick in 2015. I'm not surprised he got a bump over what he was paid last year. I'm a bit surprised the Jets were in the market at all, but once they got in they were likely to be giving him a raise after his career year in 2017.
     
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  16. Jedi mind tricks

    Jedi mind tricks Well-Known Member

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    I was promised an "interesting take"......
     
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    Manish has no sources

    Since this new regime came in its all been quiet on the leaks.

    Spit balling to keep his job.

    No wonder he hates this regime. Doesn't even know who were chasing in free agency.

    Chump

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    The Mehta hate is strong in this one...
     
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  20. Greenday4537

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    I don't want to go into this season with 4 QBs on the roster and we cannot possibly do 5 QBs. Keep McCown, keep whoever we take at #3, and then decide between Petty, Bridgewater, and Hackenberg. At this point, if Bridgewater is healthy, keep him. Petty's chances have been ruined as a starter. He might be a backup somewhere for a bit but who knows. Hackenberg someone might take a chance on and sign to a practice squad but he's just not worth the roster spot. My only issue with this becomes what about next year? I know it's thinking drastically ahead at this point, but if we go with my suggestion, who do we go with into 2019? #3 pick, then who? Bridgewater if he proves worthy to keep but then who? Maybe a 6th-7th round pick on a QB as our third QB?
     

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