Rebuilding still going on... Dont panic

Who is panicking? His moves so far have been measured and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with them other than maybe that one contract to Johnson but he always overpays CBs.

 

"Not panic"
You aint from 'round here are ya partna?

 

The biggest issue I have with Mac is that his draft picks haven't yielded many impact players. I do like how he purged the roster of unproductive vets last year and cut Mo this year. As for QB's, statistics show that 1st round QB's are more likely to become FQB's than those selected in the 2nd round and beyond. There are a few QB's this year that are potential FQB's, each with his share of flaws. QB is the most important position in the game and we have a vet on the brink of retirement and a young guy who hasn't played a meaningful snap since the WC game in early 2016. We need a long term answer at the position and there's no guarantee the Jets will be in a similar draft position next year or that the QB class will have as many possible FQB options.

 

I wasnt criticizing your thought process

 

April 27th will or won’t be a panic day

We dodged the Cousins bullet, he was not worth it and now MM must man up and move in this draft..

As Enunwa pointed out this class of QBs has our long term answer but like everything else in life will COST something..the FO should know their guy and make it happen with PICKS ..should be worth it

 

anderson, maguire, hansen, adams, maye, williams, lee,

yes he's had some duds but every GM does. I think people rag on him a bit too much for the hack and smith picks. you can't name a single GM that didn't swing and miss.

 

For 3 drafts he sure hasn’t hit a lot. There’s only 3 maybe 4 bonafide starters on that list of yours. I’m high on Hanson but I wouldn’t list him on macs resume as proof he can pick talent just yet. He has to do better, it’s very fair to be critical of his drafts thus far

 

if you can land 2 starters per draft, it's a good draft. if 1 turn out to be a pro bowler it's a great draft. most people don't realize this because they only look at their team and not the NFL averages or the big picture numbers, or they look at 1 draft where a GM struck gold and use that as an unrealistic standard.

put it this way, there are 32 teams in the NFL. 51 active players against the cap and 24 starters per team. so 1632 players and 768 starters. every year there are 7 rounds in the draft so 224 players plus comp picks plus UDFA so lets say 250 new players coming in fighting for those 1632 jobs and 768 starting positions. the average career in the NFL is under 4 years, lowest of any sport. The NFL average tenure per player on team is less then 3 years. In other words it's highly competitive and players move around a lot. You can't expect a GM to rebuil and all star squad in a draft or 2. it's done over time. 1-2 players per draft after 5 years or so you have 5-10 core players and a couple of pro bowlers if your GM did good. you build around that with role players because NFL cap and all. and add key free agents when you can.

 

But he also has to hit some roll players. 2015 and 2016 look like they are giving us 3 players total. You can crunch the numbers any way you like, figures lie and liars figure, the eye tells all. Look at his drafts , there’s not a lot to work with. We’ve been down this road before me and you, not sure why you feel the need to d fend him so much on this. He needs to draft better if we are going to take steps towards being a good team. That’s not debatable

 

You also cant judge a draft in a vacuum.... some years there aren't alot of gems out there, and some years its a goldmine. You just gotta make sure you dont take home a skank in a room full of prom queens.

That's what made Idzik's draft such an epic failure

 

2015 he got williams. who i believe was runner up for DROTY and made a probowl as an alternate. simon has been solid depth, mouldin flashed potential but got hurt. he could sitll turn out as a good role player. you can't predict injuries. obviously smith and petty were misses. not great but not bad either

1 starter (pro bowl level)
1 role player

2016 he got lee, shell, anderson, and edwards. 4 starters. lee has been solid even if people here hate him and getting better. edwards has been out punter since drafted and doing well. jenkins has played in spot duty and doens't look bad at all. shell was our starting RT last year and played ok. He also got

4 starters (anderson was near pro bowl level last year)
1 role player

2017 adams and maye, 2 starters. both played every game as a rookie and both were solid. adams did a lot more then he got credit for as well and looks like he'll be a pro bowler soon. hansen did well when given the chance, maguire looked great spelling powell and forte. legget clark and jones were all practically injury red shirts but could contribute this year. too soon to tell

2 starters, 2 role players minimum

so in 3 drafts we got 7 starters 3 role players and still a couple of unknown late picks because injury.

thats above the 2 per year average so overall mac has done a good job drafting. not amazing by any means, but not bad. well within average and better then a lot of GMs out there

 

exactly. someone was shitting on lee, i showed them all the people we could have drafted (every 1st round pick after lee) and the whole list was pretty much garbage for defense and only 1 decent WR.

 

It's funny because this fanbase was on the verge of meltdown when they didn't get all the top FAs within a few hours of free agency.

 

Stick around awhile..... it's nothing new.... unfortunately

 

This team has nowhere to go but up after the last two years and if they don't there will be a new GM and coach next year anyway..the only shame to that is that they will be getting a check written for an extra year which should have never happened.