If the Jets draft a guy it's gonna be a few years before he pans out or to put pieces around him. Then if he gets injured it will be a decade trying to re-tool. It's a backwards ass approach that only works in Madden. It works if the QB you get is a Manning or some to the like, but it's not in this draft. Wentz is way above the talent level this draft holds, can't you see that? Probably not considering your faith in Hackenberg initially. It's a backward approach to draft a QB before the team and concept is in place. Did NE draft Brady and build around him? NO.
Now that we know they will hit the open market, I would really love to see the Jets add WR Allen Robinson and WR Sammy Watkins. There are a few reasons why I think this would be smart. -The NYJ can't count on Robbie Anderson -Depth -Explosive playmakers -Will help stretch the field and open running lanes The clear negative here is the injuries both these players have had in their careers. If the Jets do draft a QB at 6 though, I would love to see them fully support the young QB.
Hefty amount of money thrown at not one but 2 FA Wr's. But yea that would be fun to watch....could you imagine with cousins and drafting Barkley...won't happen but wow.
Sammy Watkins headlines free agents who could be overpriced By Gregg Rosenthal - Around The NFL Editor - Published: March 5, 2018 at 12:06 p.m. Combine the copious amount of salary-cap space across the NFL with a shallow free-agent class, and it's easy to envision some bloated contracts materializing this month. With free agency opening at 4 p.m. ET on Wednesday, March 14, Gregg Rosenthal takes a look at the players most likely to be overpriced. Sammy Watkins, wide receiver Speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay largely blamed himself for Watkins' poor production (593 receiving yards) in 2017. McVay said the team could have done a better job scheming plays for the former Billstop-five pick, noted the coverage Watkins drew and felt it was difficult for him to join the Rams with so little time before the season. McVay made a point of expressing that Watkins played a key role in the larger L.A. passing game. Those are all reasonable points, but Watkins won't be looking to get paid like a role player. Still just 24 years old, Watkins combines the holy trinity of qualities that earn beaucoup bucks in free agency: Youth, speed and draft pedigree. And the wideout didscore eight touchdowns over his 39 receptions. Some team will dig up its old draft profile of Watkins and pay him like a No. 1 receiver. But Watkins was the third-most productive wideout on his own team last year, behind a third-round rookie (Cooper Kupp) and former Bills teammate Robert Woods. Watkins has only combined for 1,023 yards over the last two seasons, yet he could get a contract that ranks among the top five NFL receivers because it's so rare for a player with his profile to hit free agency. That's a recipe for outsized expectations. Nate Solder, offensive tackle Listing Solder is not a knock on his ability. It's a matter of simple supply and demand. Solder is easily the best starting free-agent tackle available in a league thirsty for pass protectors. Turning 30 years old next month, Solder remains a better-than-average blind-side starter, even if he's coming off an uneven season. The next-best option in free agency is probably one of his Patriotsbackups or Pittsburgh's Chris Hubbard. And this draft class doesn't appear to be one loaded with instant-impact tackles. So Solder could get paid a premium of $12-$15 million per season. Solder took a below-market deal to stay in New England last time around, an option that could be tougher to swallow this month, with so much money dangled in front of him. Jimmy Graham, tight end Graham's red-zone chops have helped to mask a decline in the rest of his game. Russell Wilson targeted Graham 96 times last season, with only eight resulting in gains of 20-plus yards. The former college basketball player was once one of the most breathtaking athletes in the league, but injuries have eroded Graham's ability to separate from defenders at age 31. He saw the most targets of his Seahawks career, but only ended up with 520 yards and a 9.1 yards-per-catch average, both easily career lows for him as a starter. Players like Jason Witten, Ben Watson and Jared Cook were all more efficient turning targets into yards last season. Never an asset as a blocker, Graham helped to evolve the tight end position at the start of this decade. But a wave of "move" tight ends have hit the league since, and teams would be better off trying to draft the next Graham or signing a younger free agent like Trey Burton. This could wind up being Graham's last NFL contract and it still threatens to be expensive. Star Lotulelei, defensive tackle Designated run stoppers aren't nearly as coveted in today's NFL, especially ones who aren't that dominant. Lotulelei is a strong candidate to get a generous contract because he was part of a stout Carolina defensive line and has a first-round pedigree. But the Panthers know better; he's not Damon Harrison or Linval Joseph. Lotulelei graded out as a negative run defender over the last two years, according to Pro Football Focus. He's a solid rotational player who is set to get paid like a star. Case Keenum, quarterback "Is Case the guy that he was last year or two years ago?" That's a question I'd expect to hear from a fan, not the man who coached him last year. The Vikings have remained publicly suspicious of Keenum's breakout season right through Mike Zimmer's press conference at the combine last week. It's as if the Vikings don't quite trust what Keenum accomplished, possibly because his outstanding season came with an inordinate amount of dropped interceptions and throws that make conservative coaching staffs cringe. The Vikings surely would've been tempted to pay Keenum big dollars if coordinator Pat Shurmur had remained in place, but instead, Keenum could be joining his fifth team in as many seasons. He can absolutely upgrade a quarterback depth chart and hold the fort as a starter, but the Vikings already maxed out his value signing him for $2 million last season. He could cost nearly 10 times that much now. Offensive linemen coming off injury This could be extended to "offensive linemen with any starting experience." A year after Matt Kalil signed for $55 million with Carolina and Rick Wagner picked up $47.5 million from Detroit, the free-agent market on the offensive line figures to offer even fewer bargains. A host of talented players coming off serious injuries could get signed as if they don't have durability concerns. The list includes Giants guard Justin Pugh, Colts guard Jack Mewhort and Giants center Weston Richburg. All three have potential to shore up interior lines, but I suspect there won't be any discounts despite their injury-plagued 2017 seasons. The O-line shortage is reaching epidemic proportions and teams simply aren't allowing quality, healthy young players to hit the market. Free agency is a time for risk-taking, even though history says most of the high-risk bets don't pay off.
Once FA starts blow Allen Robinson away with a deal he can't refuse. In the ballpark of 13-15M per. Why? If we get him it might entice Cousins to also come here, but even if we lose out on him we still get a great receiver for whomever our QB is.
Bridgewater is not still limping. In fact his coaches, teammates and reporters we're all amazed when he returned to practice last year at his movement and lack of a limp. Don't know how you can say he played poorly last year. He made on appearance late in the 4th quarter of a blowout win. Had 2 handoffs , threw one pass away to avoid the sack, had his only other pass bounce of McKinnon's hands for a pick. Then he had a couple of kneel downs to run out the clock. Really not much to make any sort of evacuation on , but a smart play to avoid the sack, a nice pass in the RBs hands and 2 hand offs isn't exactly a poor performance. It was running out the clock in garbage time. Bridgewater as a plan B is not bad at all. He's 25, was ROY and a pro bowler his first 2 years, had a bad injury but has recovered. Handled the injury well. Was a positive influence in Minnesota even when injured. Some quotes from Vikings players about how he handled being on the sidelines with the injury. "The most impressive thing for me this whole time has been the way he's reacted to being in all the meetings and seeing the film after practices and trying to coach us up,'' Thielen said. Thielen said Bridgewater critiques his route running, which he likes. Keenum says Bridgewater provides him with plenty of advice. "I lean on him quite a bit,'' Keenum said. "It's little intricacies of the offense, maybe how to talk to a receiver, how to read a certain defense.''
Bridgewater is a fine plan B as long as Plan B includes drafting a QB at 6. Plan A - Cousins Plan B - Bridgewater + 1st Rd Qb Plan C - McCown + 1st Rd QB
There may be some diamonds-in-the-rough to be had this offseason. In terms of defensive free agents, I like Adrian Clayborn and Nigel Bradham. These guys aren’t spring chickens, for sure, with the former at 29 and the latter at 28. Due to their age, their services could be had longer-term, for reason prices. Figure, Clayborn was cut for a 4M/yr salary from the Falcons and put up 9.5 sacks last year. His next contract should come in lower than that. Bradham, a 3-down backer, had 88 tackles with a sack, and a FF/FR. On paper, his production isn’t as good as a Zach Brown or an Avery Williamson, but Bradham played on a better squad and won a ring. Signing these guys for front loaded contracts would still leave Mac with, at worst, 80M — plenty of room to sign a Trumaine Johnson, Earl Thomas, and whomever else he deemed necessary to get a ring this year.
What's the point of signing numerous older players to a rebuilding team? Even though their contract may be cheaper that their last contract with the previous team, perhaps not. It depends upon how many teams might be vying for their services. IMO this would be a bad move. The only time it would make sense is if the Jets sign Cousins, they're scrapping the rebuild and going all in on making the playoffs in 2018. Otherwise, it's a waste of cap space and a hindrance to the development of the younger players the Jets have or will add.
Earl Thomas?? Do you know something I don’t?? I like Bradham and can see him replacing Demario if his contract demands stay outrageous.
First, if you've paid attention, I've said numerous times that I like Teddy. I really wanted the Jets to draft him in 2014, but that moron Idzik didn't. I truly hope that he is the veteran QB that Mac signs. As far as his limping and not playing well, I read it in an article somewhere. The not playing well may have been in practice. The article didn't specify. I'll try to find the article. Second, in the post you quoted, you missed the point entirely. I wasn't criticizing Teddy per se. I was saying that the plan of signing both McCown and Teddy, not drafting a QB and keeping Hack as the 3rd plan was awful, and it is. McCown could revert to form this year or get injured. Unless a miracle has happened, Hack is not going to be the answer. That would leave the Jets with only one QB, Teddy. Even though I like Teddy, he hasn't played in 2 years. How healthy is his knee? Is he totally healthy? I know that he has a high football IQ, is a great leader, and has great character. I'm all for signing Teddy and either trading up and taking a QB or staying put at #6 and taking a QB, and then letting Hack hold the clipboard.
Dude, you're totally clueless, so clueless that you should just stop, because you're showing your total ignorance. You clearly don't understand what a rebuild is about, how the draft works, and/or how NFL teams have operated for decades. Your analogy about Brady is laughable and again shows your ignorance. The Patriots had a veteran QB in Bledsoe and were a quality team, and may have been a playoff team. I don't remember or care. Brady wasn't added as the "final piece." He was an afterthought, a developmental project that they lucked into. If GMs built their teams first, they'd NEVER get a quality QB because it's impossible to trade up from the teens or twenties to get a topflight QB in the draft, or it would be one of those deals like where Ditka gave up his whole draft to take the pot-smoking RB Ricky Williams, or the Cowboys-Vikings deal giving up a fortune in picks for Herschel Walker. So it will be a few years before the rookie develops. Big deal. That's not the end of the world. We'd see the light at the end of the tunnel, have hope, and something about which to be excited. Saying if he gets injured, it would be "decade trying to re-tool." is flat out ridiculous and asinine, and again one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on a Jets fan site. It's the traditional and the RIGHT approach. Signing a 30 year-old QB is NOT the right approach. It's one off the dumbest things I've ever seen posited on a Jets football board, and that's saying a lot! I didn't have faith in Hack. I had hope.
I don't think the plan is to sign "numerous" older players. However the option to do so presents a possible low cost towards filling a position that cannot otherwise be filled through the draft, in-house, or younger leaning free agents. I feel like your preference would be to throw a rookie or younger option at every position. If I can get a low cost, veteran flyer on a short contract, it allows the team to allocate resources to other positions.
Just want to remind you, you said you’d rather see the Jets not win a SB than get lucky winning a SB...Just saying..
The more I think about it, the more I like signing Sammy Watkins on a 1-year deal if he'd accept. There's a lot of uncertainty in the Jets current group. Will Enunwa return to form after his injury and take a step forward? Will Robbie Anderson improve on and off the field? Will Stewart or Hansen take steps forward? Depending on how the year pans out, it's possible the group they have now could be the future. Or, there will be some disappointments and they will need to upgrade. Hence, a 1-year deal for Watkins makes sense. If he plays very well and looks like a part of the future, sign him longer-term. If he flops or the rest of their unit makes big strides, let him go. Regardless, it will be a big help having another weapon for the rookie QB they hopefully draft. Between him and Robinson, I do prefer Robinson, but just can't see him signing here.
Bradham would be a great replacement if Demario Davis ends up bolting. Hopefully they can resign him reasonably. I'm pretty sure the majority of Clayborn's sacks came in one monster game he had. A concern too with him is he'll be 30 when the season starts. Also, does he fit as a 3-4 DE? DaQuan Jones from Tennessee is younger and although coming off an injury, has been a productive player who may be a 3-4 DE
