Jets need to hire this guy ASAP

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  1. statjeff22

    statjeff22 2008 Green Guy "Most Knowledgeable" Award Winner

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    Maybe someone will find a link saying that, but it sure wasn't what he was claiming immediately after the game. I saw his press conference, and he repeatedly shrugged his shoulders when reporters asked why they didn't run a sneak, said "That's what I would have liked," and also said "We've never run a lot of quarterback sneaks here in Pittsburgh." In fact, my immediate reaction was exactly what you said (in an opposite kind of way) - I said "Why the hell didn't you just ignore the idiotic wide pitch call and sneak it with an audible?". You're a future Hall of Famer who has won two Super Bowls - you can do whatever the hell you want and no one is going to say a thing. And once the play was blown up the first time, how could you not at least run the sneak the second time?

    If Haley called those plays (which I assume he did) that's a big black mark against him, but they don't make Roethlisberger look good either.

    Edit: here it is, starting at 0:54:
     
  2. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    You can be a tyrant and succeed if you have one of two things. Either great charisma, aka Parcells, or years of coaching experience that earns you respect aka Belicheck and Coughlin. What sinks a lot if young coaches like Mangini, McDanieks, Haley, etc is they try to earn respect through fear and players laugh at them. Being a tyrant can work but only for in limited circumstances.
     
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    Guy seems to get in a bar room brawl once every few year and people also seem to get sick of him...might as well hire Rex as DC and bring the circus back to town.
     
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    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    If its true the Jets dumped Morton over clashes during the season, I don't see how hiring a guy known for clashes makes any sense at all.
     
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  6. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Todd and Todd worked together in Dallas with Parcells, I’m guessing they know what’s what about each other and if it can work.
     
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    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    If the results are winning I could careless how he interacts with others. Parcells was the most abrasive coach around and wanted to win. Now we have someone who is just a moron but he's very nice and the players like him. I'll take the Parcells type all the time.
     
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  8. Noam

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    It takes a very talented person to be an A*& and for it to work for them. Parcell's was extremely charismatic. He had the ability to treat people poorly and make them like it. It is a very rare talent and it does not work for most people. That being said it is much less essential for a coordinator to be liked than a head coach especially when he has the head coach backing him up.

    In regards to winning vs treating people with respect. I would rather have both and would argue that you get a lot more out of people by treating them with respect than making them fear you. Doing a Mangini, Schiano, etc and treating people badly is an attempt at a shortcut to success that almost always ends in disaster. I would much rather lose than win by cheating or treating others badly. Life, happiness and success, at least for me, is a product of how you treat others not the end result.
     
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  9. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Very true. QBs like ben have free reign to make changes at the line. I'm pretty sure peyton manning pretty much called 890% of the pays in indy his career there.
     
  10. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I wouldn't be upset if we had Todd Haley on board as the OC. But as long as Bates signs off. I really don't want Bates to be in a situation where he is unhappy here
     
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    Roethlisberger is a BITCH. Passing the blame really? A real leader doesn't respond like that. And of course as you mention- he's Ben Friggin' Roethlisberger, if he wants a QB sneak he can call it himself. 15 years in the league and Roethisberger's still the same scumbag he was when he entered the league
     
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  12. GWjet

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    I would be all for bringing Todd Haley in. He would probably be the best offensive mike we’ve had here since Bruce Coslet. BUT i get the feeling we’re waiting on the guy from Philadelphia.
     
  13. BacktoQueens

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    Haley is the WORST possible option for this team.

    I don't want him anywhere near the building.
     
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