Food for thought...

I don't agree with every move that Mac has made, and I like him less than I did a year ago, but I still think he has done a pretty good job here, and things are looking up for the team talent-wise. He has made a number of excellent Trades and FA pickups (ASJ, Brandon Marshall, Matt Forté, James Carpenter, Terrence Brooks, Kony Ealy, Chandler Catanzaro, Demario Davis, Morris Claiborne, Jermaine Kearse, Jeremy Kerley, Kelvin Beachum, Thomas Hennessy, Mike Pennel, Darryl Roberts, and others) and found good players in the lower rounds of the draft or as UDFAs (Robby Anderson, Elijah McGuire, Lawrence Thomas, Doug Middleton, and Brandon Shell). 4th round QBs often don't even make the team, but Petty has. At the least he is a solid backup QB, and several of us think that he could possibly be a quality starter.

At the very least, Mac's 2017 draft was a very good one, getting Adams, Maye and McGuire who have made significant contributions. In addition Stewart and Hansen have shown promise. Leggett, Donahue, Clark and Jones are unknowns due to injuries, but Leggett and Donahue showed promise as well.

The 2016 draft is looking better as Darron Lee has shown improvement and has played well in the games in which he has been used correctly. Jordan Jenkins was an excellent 3rd round pick. Shell (a 5th round pick) has been pretty good at RT, and Lac Edwards has developed into a pretty good punter.

His 2015 draft didn't turn out very well, but many forget that he had been on the job all of 4 months and had to work with Bradway and the bums that were in the Scouting Dept. at that time. He has pretty much turned over the personnel in the Scouting and Personnel Depts. and as a result, the drafts have improved as have the FA acquisitions.

As far as I'm concerned his major faux pas was not getting an LT in the 2015 draft and not doing more to upgrade the OL. But let's not forget that D'Brickashaw retired at the last minute, and Mangold got injured and still isn't able to play. His drafting of Hack is looking more and more like it was a bigger mistake. Some blame him (including you, I think) for not taking Watson or Mahomes in this year's draft. I never expected him to take a QB in this draft. I would have been happy for him to if he had gone with the rookie, Petty and Hack, but he would have gotten killed for entering the season without an experienced QB on the roster. I loved Watson in college, and thought he would be a good prospect for some teams, but not the Jets. I don't think his arm is strong enough to be that successful in the NE in the winter. I thought he would throw a bunch on interceptions and wind up being a middle of the road starter or worse. He still may. I loved Mahomes, but can totally understand why he didn't roll the dice on Mahomes. Although insanely talented, he is still a huge unknown, and I don't think he would have developed here as he potentially will in KC. We had a novice OC who had a lot more to worry with than developing a rookie QB, and a QB coach who had not worked in the NFL in 4 years. It was also too early to give up on either Petty or Hack. Mac is also handicapped in having to be a peer of Bowles and not his boss. Mac could have insured that Petty and Hack got more development if he was Bowles' boss, but not as a peer. He is powerless in that regard, and you can thank Woody for that.

 

QB LT EDGE CB all having been neglected in the top of the draft is the central point of the article. mac has done decent on 'filling in' and moving the chess pieces but the impact players are not there.


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I'm holding Macc responsible for Hack, and for neglecting the offense, particularly QB and OL. At this point his successes have been almost negated by his mistakes, so he's teetering on the brink of getting fired if it were up to me. This FA/draft season will be the tipping point. If he gets a FQB prospect, and upgrades the offense, and gets a legit edge rusher, he'll have secured his job for a long time. It's a tall order, but it has to be filled. If he goes BPA-D with the first pick AGAIN - I don't care if it's for a combination of Mean Joe Green and Mark Gastineau, I'm done.

 

Thanks for the plus you gave to Mahomes..we need to draft a QB every year (till we get our FQB) imo but of course that is a very unpopular notion for this Board

Mac is drafting or dealing for a QB in 2018...who I dont know..but I really think so..of course if goes for anything less or defense I am through with this team

Imagine being a GM on an equal level with your HC??? Thats stupid and gives the Coach an unfair advantage...what did Bowles do to deserve THAT?

 

Plus 10000

it seems we may be the only people who have the guts to say and get it right! Mac has some proving to do

i wont go another year entertaining ideas from other posters to continue going D in the first round or schemes to also pick up less talented QBs

Ive had it and thank you for your honesty that you are done too....stupid will stay with stupid and chase their tails but we will be gone

 

So he needs to upgrade edge rusher, but if he takes one in the first round you are done?

 

Outside of Leonard Williams, I still think the 2015 and 2016 drafts are garbage. Until recently when I saw Jenkins, Lee, and Burris show some signs of life, I thought Mac was doing his best impression of John Idzik.

The 2017 draft however is the complete opposite. This draft is great and the first truly great one we've had since 2006.

However, his drafting of QB's specifically has sucked. Hack is the worst QB I've ever seen play.

I'm with you. I would have fired Mac already for drafting Hack, taking Darron Lee and totally neglecting the OL, and spending like a shit faced sailor in FA.

But like I already explained to you, our opinion does not matter. Mac is Woody's guy and it's that simple. So get over his piss poor drafting. Get over whatever you think Mac is on the hook for? Pretend he has a fresh slate.

 

It depends. If he passes on a highly rated QB and takes "D", yeah I'm done. But if he's already locked up Cousins that changes things.

They need a QB they can build with. And while I hear you and others say you don't need to use a 1st round pick on a FQB, I disagree, Sure, there are plenty of first rounders who miss, but that can be said for every position. If first round selections aren't worth anything, then why not trade yours every year for more lower round picks? The lower you go in the draft, the longer the odds are at finding blue chip talent. Yes, there are exceptions, but they aren't the rule. A stud pass rusher is no more "can't miss" than a stud QB. It's long past time the Jets rolled the dice on the most important player on the team. If they think a guy can be their FQB, they need to take him with their first pick and not risk him getting taken by someone else.As I said, if they've already locked up Cousins, then they have the luxury of taking an edge rusher or LT early, and then taking someone like Stidham in the 3rd round.

 

One of the major reasons I could never go all in on Rex Ryan was because of his consistent penchant for being satisfied after games, for being impressed with certain victories either in the regular season or in the playoffs. That culture led to a certain amount of complacency and satisfaction that the Jets were never deserving of. No coach worth his salt (see: Parcells, Saban, etc.) allows himself to get so giddy as to take away from the major work that is still ahead. Ryan gloated in the post-game after beating New England that year whereas someone like Parcells would have taken the approach that the win was nice, the boys played hard, but we haven't accomplished anything yet. I do like the temperament that Bowles displays after games whether the Jets win or lose, the even-keeled approach tells his team that the road is still long and can get rocky...so don't celebrate too long, or dwell on a loss too long either, because no matter what, there is work still to be done.

 

No one cares that you are hold the GM accountable.