Why can't Darron Lee cover anyone?

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  1. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    Had a great second half to the game. Hopefully he's starting to turn a corner. Would be huge for this D.
     
  2. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Still drunk huh?
     
  3. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    That's my line ;)
     
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  4. legler82

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    Lee still stinks the only time he makes a play is if he is unblocked and happens to fill he run fit. He made a couple of plays today but for the most part it was 11 on 10 put there.
     
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  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Baby steps. A couple of good plays made in one game is a start. This is the first full singular half of football he's put together that seemed decent.

    Who knows. Maybe a jolt of confidence is what he needed. He's definitely looked better in that 4-3 under look than just getting blasted away by offensive guards in the 3-4.
     
  6. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    I thought for sure that 3rd down pass in OT to Lewis with Lee in on coverage was gonna result in a flag. I was waiting. Thankfully it never came.
     
  7. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    I think it's mental with him. He's fast but he reacts slow. The greats ones are the opposite. You should have seen more from him towards the end last year and definately more this year. But he's not making that leap. We can always trade him off to Cleveland. They seem to be our buddies in trade and pick ups.
     
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  8. Walt White

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    Everyone progresses at their own rate, and there's been 750,000 players in the annals of the NFL, maybe more, o_O, that have progressed at a slower rate and become excellent players. He started reacting in this game, fast too, and did not look bad. That's a good thing. Jeesh. No I'm not drunk Lol

    I will agree tho that Lee may be a little bit of a character that needs extra time to mature and get a full understanding of the league to get more comfortable. I think he's a little scatter brained, but I also think he's intelligent.
     
  9. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe but I think he's a bust and having two bust in the top of the same draft is getting old. I think he's too small for the position and I just never liked the pick Day 1. The guy had two off field incidents this year. One with a teammate. He needs rehab or more weigh as he can't handle his liquor. Good thing you made that intelligent comment at the very end. I would have stopped reading after that. Maybe heroin is in your future lol.
     
  10. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Why can't Lee cover? Wrong. More like why can't some of this fan base give a kid time to learn the position, adjust to the speed of the NFL game and develop?

    I understand that Lee was a 1st rounder but he's got raw athletic talents that can't be taught. He makes mistakes out there but then again that's expected.

    I'm willing to give him time in order to become confident mentally because as of right now he's only 4 games into his 2nd season and still developing. When the game slows down this kid can become really good.

    He's 2nd on the team in tackles and has also recorded a sack but yet being made out to be some type of Vernon Gholston 1st round bust.
     
  11. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Maybe. That's good Booze. Maybe you're actually considering the fact that most players, and teams, take time to develop. That they just don't materialize out of nowhere onto the scene. That tagging a blue chipper is not an automatic thing for anybody. That maybe the kid is allowed to make a harmless mistake and grow too.That's good. That maybe you can even get over you're preconceived dislike to acknowledge the kid could improve. Good going.
    But to your point, engaging you over this shit actually could lead to heroin for some relief.
     
  12. boozer32

    boozer32 Well-Known Member

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    Yawn. When will the Jets actually have a kid develop like that? Revis? Abraham? How long has it been. I mean we draft defense every year the law of averages state that it should have happened at least twice in a decade. Expecting this guy to have the light bulb go off is delusional and if it does he'll prbably be on another team. Just help youself and come around to Lee and Hackenberg 2016 Jets B-U-S-T. The only reason he's even playing is they have no one else.
     
  13. Walt White

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    That's great Boozer. Wallow in it. Knock yourself out. Lmao.
     
  14. BacktoQueens

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    playing 10 vs 11 is exactly what I thought watching them today also.
    Lee is terrible. Over pursuing runs, picking the wrong lanes, constantly out of position when he's not being erased by a block. And that's just in run support. He also offers very little in coverage as well.

    I mentioned earlier in day I'd rather see the Jets play 3 safeties and bench him. He's really been handicapping the D.
    or just play Stanford or Carter more for time being.
     
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  15. Mogriffjr

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    The staff obviously sees the potential he can bring, or else Stanford would get more time. On the same token, Stanford really played well the time he filled in for Lee when he was hurt. We will see what happens from that...
     
  16. maynardsmyhero-uk

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    To play Lee in middle we need a top level NT , we don't have that and he suffers because of it. If we gad a Pouha or Harrison jn front if him I feel results would be better . Sideline to sideline I feel he is improving , his issue is shedding blocks or working through traffic.

    We consign players to the scrap heap to soon on this team going back to the likes of James Farrior, let the kid play another 12 games and then judge. Not every player drafted in first round has an impact like Adams , others take 2-3 years to get there. Lee has solid athletic traits which with coaching can be utilised well with a supporting cast.
     
  17. Red Menace

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    The fact that Lee is playing better in the 4-3 under, proves what many here have been saying for a while. It was not a good pick by
    Mack for a team that played a 3-4 hybrid scheme.

    I have to give TB or Rodgers credit for seeing this on tape and making the defensive adjustments and tailoring the scheme to players abilities.

    Since your in a good mood, what do you say we give my man Mauldin one more year with Jets at a lower weight and allow him to play weakside LB if he gets healthy.

    ;)
     
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  18. Walt White

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    Lol, I'm open to Mauldin succeeding :). But he's running out of time and if they keep him he'll get a chance. What they do with him will tell us tho.

    It's about the personnel as I see it. Not about strict adherence to 4-3, 3-4, and adherence to those bases and player profiles from a different era. Bowles played to the personnel last year. They just weren't good enough. Like he did in '15 when they were much better. It didn't matter what scheme they ran. I think the personnel are better this year, there's different personnel, and their much faster. If he wanted to continue with what they did in '15 we would see a different approach and draft possibly. It's not what he wanted to do. I don't see Mauldin as a pass rush specialist, and he was not very good otherwise.
    Here's a quote from a member that explains it better than me, but is accurate with what they're trying to do imo. Whether they succeed or not remains to be seen. Whether people agree or not is another story:
     
  19. 101GangGreen101

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    I thought while he gave up some big plays, he also had some big stops. The catch to Fournette was just stupidity on his part as he looked lost, but he did have that good 3rd and 1 stop behind the LOS and also a good coverage on Lewis on a big 3rd down.

    I thought it was the best game of his very young career.
     
  20. jetsclaps

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    It takes skill to read, react, and hit that hole to be unblocked. He hasn't been great, but if you're a man of integrity you have to give credit where credit is due, and he played a good game yesterday.
     

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