The Hackenberg era is about to begin

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  1. Cman69

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    I'd much prefer to be upset about the lies told by a HC that is more concerned about keeping his job than developing young QB talent on this roster. We have a GM and a HC going in opposite directions thanks to perhaps the most fucked up org chart one can imagine for a historically dysfunctional franchise.
     
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    Love it. Great progress. Thank you.
     
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    It could be more about protecting Hack.
     
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    Love McCown going the extra mile to prevent the TD... Lol
     
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    Much along the same lines of what NC said, the real organizational disconnect IMO started on day one when Woody decided to have the HC and GM both report to him. This is a massive dysfunctional arrangement particularly when both report to a man that knows nothing about running an NFL team. The GM and the HC had conflicting goals and vision into how to achieve them. Bottom line you can't rebuilt a team without playing your young players and take some short term hits for a better long term future. We needed to develop young talent, Bowles often chose otherwise.

    Bowles since day one has been fighting for his own survival at the expense of the long term success and to the detriment of the young players, many of which have not been given sufficient exposure, yet he keeps talking about they " have to show me something first" Well shit you need to play them so they can get into a rhythm and show you something.
    Personally Mac in my view has done a pretty damned good job ( OL non withstanding) but he is hamstrung by Bowles no risk approach, which often translates into playing top talent out of position or staying the whole season behind a bunch of dead man walking.

    Now once again he is taking the low risk win now approach and putting Mac and the team's future in a bind. The QB situation need to be resolved quickly, and the young guys need many more reps than they are getting. We must find out this year in the field of battle if we have a QB worth developing or not. Meanwhile we still don't have an owner that knows shit about correcting this mess so Mac is in a mess. Nontheless, Bowles can not wait too long, because this season is about positioning for the future, not the usual " best chance to win now BS". If he doesn't get the message, he and only he will be the first that will sink as the ship takes a new course.
     
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  8. PolygamyWinsChampionships

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    All these people defending Mac in this thread is so lol. Signing McCown shows that this GM is incompetent beyond any reasonable doubt. When you sign the bum of course Bowles is going to start him to try to win a few games for a sad argument to save his job given the dearth of talent on the roster.

    Meanwhile Mac is so stupid he doesn't even realize that the only chance for a respectable amount of wins is if Hack or Petty start and step up. He drafted Hack in the second round and he won't even give the kid a chance to start in his second year instead of a 38 year old who never was. The GM has admitted that he can't draft for shit with this move, and he wants to blow the #1 pick on top of it in the process.

    Any Mac supporter is delusional. All we can do is hope that the team is too pathetic for McCown to win any games on accident, then somebody browbeats Woody to hire a good football mind to conduct the GM search and we get a new window opening in 3-4 years.
     
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    Some fans are so stupid that they don't realise those respectable amount of wins has stopped us being able to rebuild as a franchise since oh god knows how long, 6-10, 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 and even 10-6 have been killing this team for ages, HC's come in and feel they can't rebuild as they have to perform for the press and hard line fans that won't accept anything but a "respectable amount" of wins.

    I want Hack to start, McCowan is pointless but I still want us to go 0-16 and secure our future with a chance at some quality additions or brilliant trade downs if that is the way it goes, 8-8 will kill this rebuild stone dead.
     
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    Did you say 0-16? No fan of a team should want their team to NOT win A game. You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    Gotta get at least 1 win. That first pick is gold but 0-16 is too steep a price
     
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    McCown is the dink and dunk king, meanwhile Hack is throwing 70 yard bombs. The difference is marginal at this point so why not just go with Hack?
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Going 0-16 means an immediate house clean
     
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    With the talent and sheer number of 1st and 2nd round picks on the defensive side of the ball, going 0-16 would mean an entire house clean, not just managers and coaches. It means Williams, Lee, Jenkins, Wilkerson, Richardson, Adams, Maye were all busts.

    I think these guys are foundational players, and if they gel together can win a few games even without much offense.
     
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    What is the point of bumbling around and winning just enough games to remain shit for the next 20 years, there is no point, American football is like no other game in how a team can improve itself, it is all about the draft and to get a good draft you have to be utterly shit, we have been averagely shit for 20 years give or take a couple of false hope seasons.

    I would go 0-16 for the next 3 seasons if it guaranteed we could reboot this franchise into a winning one and I don't just mean winning a superbowl but putting us in a place to consistently challenge over a number of years rather than the dross we have had to put up with.
     
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  17. K'OB

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    A high price, what is the difference between a 0-16 and 1-15, 2-14, 3-13 a whole two/three wins would satisfy your need to see your team win a game of football ?

    The only problem then is, 2-14, 3-13 will not get you the number one pick and quite possibly only the top 3, rendering a season of hell for nothing at all.
     
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    Not if the offense can't score points. They won't clear house of the young talented players. Expensive ones could be out the door though. Specifically Mo.
     
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    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Only a moronic fan would wish to go 0-16. Winning 2 to 4 games can easily still secure a top pick. Going 0-16 has proven nothing but be a complete and utter destruction of a NFL franchise. How long did it take Detroit to get out of that slump?

    Glad to see you would go 0-16 for the next 3 seasons. Really goes to show how much of a fan you really are. Tanking has amounted to NOTHING.
     
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    It may start after week 3 or something... But it will only be until we draft Rosen or Mayfield next year....

    Thanks god.
     

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