Do You Agree With Richard Sherman?

Trump bashed everyone and was elected president of the US...enough said.

 

If I or anyone else on this board did something to cause our employer to lose business we would be fired on the spot. Kaepernick not finding a job is the NFL version of that.

 

I cant vote bc I'm not aligned with he's good and even an upgrade over what we have.

 

needs a 3rd option of i don't care about his kneeling but he sucks and the extra win or 2 he'd give us over mcknown isn't worth it. he clearly isn't a franchise QB so why bother. Cap is best off on a team with a good QB and backup as he can keep the ship afloat for a few games if the starter goes down. He isn't a NFL starting QB his ceiling is career journeyman backup. It doesn't matter what you do. the NFL doesn't blackball great players, they only do it to shitty or old ones. peterson, vick, big ben, ray lewis all perfect examples of if your a great player you can get away with shit. If it was cam newton kneeling no way would carolina have cut him and no way would he be a free agent if somehow they did cut him. cap sucks , no reason to bring him here

 

I find it really strange that very few people can't admit perhaps the owners of the NFL are acting in the right manner. The reason this guy should not be a member of any NFL team is that he insulted the American flag and this country, not just the military that helps protect it. He also had the audacity to wear a shirt with Castro's image in support of him, another serious slap to our nations face. I would think New Yorkers after going through 911 would find Kaepernick's antics despicable and would find his actions offensive.

To say he went about it the wrong way is an understatement. I am not suggesting the man should be imprisoned but his actions should be as insulting as someone advocating white supremacy. If all of you think it is insignificant to insult this country then this country truly is in a serious down spiral to a 3rd world country.

Perhaps the NFL owners are actually doing this more because of economics, so be it. In either way I don't want to see a NFL game with this jerk in it!

 

I have no interest whatsoever in some nitwits political speech. But Kap is clearly Osama Bin Laden's illegitimate spawn, you've seen the pictures. I'll pass.

 

I haven't agreed with Richard Sherman since he told his son what a dolt he and Taft were.

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I don't agree with his wearing a Castro T-shirt, and don't know what other offensive things he might have done, but it's plenty offensive that this country considers itself great while it still is stealing from Native Americans every chance it gets and has broken every treaty they've ever forced the Native Americans to sign, and the way they continue to treat African Americans as second or third class citizens in many quarters.

Many people in this country look at the 1950s as some idyllic place. I guess for white people it was, but not for people of color.

Our FDA has been selling our country down the river for decades, lying to the American public, endangering their health, if not outright killing some of them. It allows Big Pharma to lie and cheat the American people. It allows food manufacturers to get away with murder.

Our Congress failed to create a national health plan decades ago, not just this year. Every other developed nation in the world that is worth a darn has a national health plan created by their legislature or leaders. We're still dealing with a health system created by the Medical Profession and the Insurance Industries, both that are for profit. No one in their right mind would create a system where Insurance Companies and a Health care system are for profit. It creates too many conflicts between doing the right thing for subscribers/patients and paying shareholders and CEOs.

No one in their right mind would create a system where our legislators get better health benefits than regular citizens, and owe more allegiance to the lobbyists who give them tons of cash than to the people who elected them. Yet, that's what we have in this country and it's what's causing it's downfall.

This country is not great by any stretch of the imagination. We have more opportunities and freedom than many places, but in about every conceivable way, those opportunities are used to screw someone else and to try to take away their freedoms and rights.

I grew up a proud citizen and very patriotic, but have seen the truth about this country. We are not better as individuals than citizens of other nations, and while our country might be better in some ways than many other countries, we are worse in others. It could be a great country if it lived up to what it claimed to be. The shame is that it doesn't. People don't want to grow or change. They want to maintain the status quo that keeps them in power and control. The joke of that is that nothing stays the same. Any organism or organization has to continue to grow or it begins dying.

Yes, our country is going down the tubes, but it's not because of people like Kaepernick. It's because of companies that pollute our air and water and a government that allows it. It's because of companies that refuse to pay their employees a reasonable living wage and provide a safe working environment, and that puts the "bottom line" above all. It's because of greedy labor union leaders who didn't care about the rank and file, if they kept working, or if they drove the company out of business, but just wanted to make as much money for themselves as they could.

It's because of all the people who are complacent, greedy, power-hungry, selfish, ignorant/blind/delusional, in denial, lacking in compassion or respect for others who are different, and who seek to polarize people and things, rather than compromising and working together for the common good.

 

I disagree that he's not a FQB. He took a team to a Super Bowl. The 49er franchise jettisoned the previous FQB to make him the FQB, so he's got the goods as far as I'm concerned. As far as being better than anything currently on the Jets roster, there is no debate he's better. However, the NY Jets "rebuild" strategy is to put the worse team possible out there this season in hopes of getting a high draft pick, so what purpose would be served in signing someone who might actually win them some games?

As for his politics, I too agree with his POV, however disagree that he must stifle his opinions in deference to his employer. Kaepernick was hired to play football, not to express loyalty to the country (or his employer.) To require an employee to stand for the national anthem (which no team does, BTW) would also be a violation of freedom of speech, so why should we be upset when an individual(s) chooses to exercise their freedom of speech by not standing.

Finally, I don't blame any owners for not wanting to hire him. When you take a public stand as he did, right or wrong, he must have known there would be consequences to his actions and that he must be prepared to face those consequences. Personally, I don't care what his views are as long as he throws 30 TD passes and has a QB rating of over 90. Nevertheless, if an owner feels he's too much of a distraction, it's his right as an owner not to hire if he so chooses.

 

Kaep to Jets? Why the hell not. Adding more fuel to the already burning dumpster fire won't make much difference in the long run. No?

 

Is Kap still better than what we have? If (god forbid) we ever bring him aboard at some point an already limited single read running qb will be behind in learning the offense and developing chemistry with the receivers. No chance it ends well.

Plus it is a PR nightmare. You think Woody hasn't gotten the same letters that Mara has?

From a financial and football standpoint there is nothing to gain from signing and ignorant loser distraction like Kaepernick.

 

It would be the Tebow circus atmosphere all over again. I'd like to think the Jets learned something from that debacle. then again, they did sign Tebow...

 

Yes he probably is a marginal upgrade

No he's not even close to worth it when you weigh out the positives/negatives

 

Wow this is a very well written response and many of the points you make are very valid. This country is not perfect and neither is its history. But there does come a time as citizens of a nation we need to have a common bond or a certain feeling of country or unity. Otherwise how can country exist?

My problem with Kaepernick is his disrespect to our country. There is reason why there is a national anthem sung during sporting events. For him to interrupt such an event for his own political cause is selfish and disrespectful. He could have easily made his point on TV shows, radio talk shows, or social media. Wearing a shirt with Castro and Malcom X again is offensive to me, but not as offensive as interrupting the national anthem.

As to the problems of this country, all I can say is that the richest folks have always run this country. The problem today is they don't seem to care for this country like they use to. Teddy Roosevelt lost his own son in war. When is the last time you have heard of something like that?

I am sorry if I have made the Kaepernick issue political, but I am dismayed that nobody has supported the owners for wanting to not hire him.

 

If I signed Kap, I would expect him not to protest the national anthem at any more games. What he did in the past or what political things he says or does on his own time aren't a concern of mine. If the NFL has a place for men who beat their wives, it certainly has a place for Kap. And I would say the same for a QB who expressed Curt Schilling's views.

 

I have intentionally stayed out of this debate and I agree with most of what NC said and as you, I as a veteran and as the son of a disabled veteran who lost 2 brothers defending this nation's flag and the right to free speech was offended by Kaepernick's actions.
I was equally offended by the actions of your players , Bennett and McCourty as well as many other players around the league. I ask you if you feel they should be out of the league as well?
Kaepernick is a polarizing figure , he is a better QB than more than half of the current QBs under contract, he produced on a shit team and should be in the league. As I said, as a veteran I was offended, however I served to protect the rights of all Americans, family members gave their lives so Kaepernick and the others could protest. And I have to say he may not have gone about it in a way I approve , but he got his message heard and I believe it was a message that needed to be heard and still needs to be heard.
The racial decide is unacceptable, I have hope , watching my children go through school, the younger generation is color blind , thank God , and it is up to every one of us , White,Black, Brown, Yellow to come together and ensure that every American is afforded those same rights that every veteran made sacrifices to defend.

 

I say fuck them both....

 

Thanks. No, no country is perfect, but too many people in this one try to act as if this one is, and they choose to get offended when someone criticizes it. Perhaps instead of choosing to get offended, people can try to listen deeply with compassion and understanding, and then really try to see if there is truth in that criticism, and if so, do something to try and change the situation. That's not the way most respond, however.

I agree that we must remember and celebrate our common bond. Another way to think of that is that we all need to focus on doing what's right for our country, for the common good, and not just ourselves.

Let me ask you to do this. Try to see things from Kaepernick's perspective and from that of African Americans or Native Americans. When you and your race have had to fight prejudice/bigotry and discrimination your whole lives and your country hasn't shown you or your people due respect, how much respect would you have for that country? In many respects our country acts hypocritically. Because my parents were ultraconservative (but not bigoted) they didn't like Malcolm X and thought he was going about things the wrong way., as I grew up, that shaped my opinion. As I got older, read more about him and the times, I perfectly understood why he took the approach he did. When you're being mistreated, called racial epithets, and discriminated against, you don't want to wait for some hazy point in the future, or another 100-200 years for things to change. You get tired of it. You get angry and decide to fight back. I don't blame Malcolm X at all now, and I believe he did a lot speed up positive change. Therefore, I can totally understand wearing a Malcolm X T-shirt, but not a Castro one, although I can see the appeal. Castro supposedly was akin to Malcolm X, he fought to liberate his country from oppression. The problem is that Communism is a lie, and that Castro was the worst oppressor of all.

Maybe Kaepernick wasn't getting asked to do TV shows, talk radio shows and the like. Even if he was, kneeling on national TV got his message across more quickly, to a larger audience, and loud and clear. Maybe I'm not remembering the incidents correctly, but how did he disrupt the national anthem? Did they stop singing/playing it because he refused to stand? I don't think so.

The problem as I see it, is that there are some problems with "patriotism." For many people it means living in and celebrating the past, and turning a blind eye to the shameful way our country treats others who are different. It also creates feelings of superiority. Nationalism has been one of the biggest, if not THE biggest problem in all the wars that have ever been fought. Maybe, just maybe, if we stopped focusing on national pride, and viewed ourselves simply as citizens of the world, with all races, men and women and individuals as brothers and sisters and equals, there's be no more wars. Maybe then the world's people would work together to the problems in the world like hunger, climate change, slavery, pollution, etc. At least it would be taking a different approach, as the one that's been used for the last 600+ years doesn't seem to work very well.

The richest folks have always run the world, and many, if not most, of them have ALWAYS been selfish and not given a damn about the poor. In fact, they've gone out of their way to keep the poor and powerless oppressed, poor and powerless. Many of the wealthy got that way because they mistreated and cheated others. When many, if not most, did something that helped our country, it was because they got something out of it too. Yes, at the time of the birth of our nation, here and in Europe there were some wealthy leaders with noble ideas, but that age of enlightenment is gone. In the late 20th Century the mantra was all about fulfilling one's self, and focusing on one's self and getting what one wanted, and it has created a country and world where most are selfish, self-absorbed, and care all too little about the suffering and injustice in this world.

I actually applaud Kaepernick's courage. He had to know that his actions were going to cause a LOT of pushback from other players, owners, fans, the media, etc., and that it might cost him his NFL career. He put his beliefs and doing what he felt was best for his race and this country over his own selfish wants and needs. I applaud that. If more people did things like taking a stand for truth and justice in spite of what it cost them, our country and world would be a lot better place.

 

Protesters are just as patriotic as the next person, in fact, maybe more so. What motivates protesters is not selfishness, but a belief that there is something wrong in the direction the country is taking. It is out of love of country, that they seek to change it for the better.