The only thing worse than the Jets striking out while swinging for the fences is if they strike out trying to play it safe. Happens all the time in the draft. I'd argue Mahomes experience growing up with his father and his uncle (Latroy Hawkins) will have him better prepared to enter the NFL and hit the ground running than your typical NFL prospect. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
I edited my post while you were writing this response, so you may have more to respond to. I agree with both points here. Still, if I were Mac, I wouldn't consider Mahomes before their 3rd round pick.
OJ Howard has concerns about his love for the game - why wasn't he more productive with all that talent of his? Jamal Adams is an ankle diver and has on a handful of occasion bounced off someone he was trying to tackle like a pillow on a wrecking ball. Malik Hooker is terrible in run support and has something of an injury history to be concerned about, not to mention his Trubisky-esque lack of experience. There is no sure thing in the draft. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
While I agree that there is no "sure thing" in the draft, and have some concerns about Howard's love for the game and desire to be great, I think that Adams is as close to being a "sure thing" as one gets. IMO one wouldn't draft Hooker for run support. He can improve his tackling ability and angles. He doesn't have an injury history. He suffered two injuries this season (his only season in college), played through the injuries, and neither seemed to have an adverse affect on him. Just because he had surgeries on his injuries doesn't qualify him as having an "injury history" imo.
I love all three prospects so I wasn't suggesting the Jets shouldn't take any of them, just making the point that you can identify fallability with each pick. I think if Mac passes on Mahomes and he becomes what I expect him to become, that would be worse than him making the pick and missing; particularly if we take someone that doesn't pan out. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
Thanks for the clarification. I agree that it would be worse for the Jets if Mac doesn't take Mahomes and he pans out, but it wouldn't be worse for Mac's career. While GMs get fired for not finding a QB, they don't get fired for not taking a QB that pans out, unless he never finds one. Mac would still have a chance to draft one next year, or even in a lower round this year, or Hack or Petty could still pan out.
I've heard from different former NFL GMs in interviews that GMs frequently get fired for players they don't pick. It doesn't seem to be such a stretch. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
We passed on the chance at a frachise QB just a few short years ago because we just drafted a shitty 2nd rd QB the year before. We should not make the same mistake twice.
That may be the case, but Mahomes probably wouldn't pan out until next season at the earliest, and by then Petty or Hack could have panned out, or Mac could have taken Darnold or a QB in next year's draft.
That's assuming Darnold keeps up what he started last year, and that the Jets are in range to take him, and that he doesn't look at the Jets and say "fuck that, I'll stay in college another year". Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
True, but that's why I said "Darnold or a QB." I just mentioned Darnold specifically because he's the one I see posters here salivating over most often. There are several other QBs who could be just as good who are available next year. A QB could look at the Jets and say, "The heck with it, I'll stay in college another year.", but if Mac has a very good draft this year and upgrades the offense, or if Bowles demonstrates that he has learned and grown and Morton proves to be a great OC, or if Bowles is fired and a great new HC (either veteran/experienced or exciting prospect) is hired, some of those QBs could very easily want to play for the Jets.
I totally get what your saying, but I'd be very surprised if the Jets factor in next year's class when making their decisions. I certainly doubt they intend to tank. Sent from my KIW-L24 using Tapatalk
I'm not the one making that argument - don't shoot the messenger and besides that, there are very few over the course of NFL draft history that have gone at 6 - I can think of only 2. My feeling is that at 6, Jets would prefer to trade down even if OJ is there - this draft is deep for TE talent
No they certainly did not but they sure had a shot at Derek Carr but we just had to have that safety. That worked out well.
Well Jets would have had to grab him in the first round - or seriously trade up to the top 2nd ahead of Oakland...... and you know what they say about hindsight
That's not true. The Jets also got a second round pick and took Justin Miller, I believe. Bradway also wanted the Jets to draft Russell Wilson. As for this season, I'm in my late 50s and have been waiting a long time for a con rending team. I'm willing to sit through 2-3 rough years if that's what it takes to build this team into a perennial contender. To me, there is no difference between a 2 win season and a 7 win season except the 2 win season gives you a shot at a franchise QB. Some of you need to have more patience on a season by season basis than a three year old. This team is not going to be the least bit competitive this season no matter what, so let's get behind the rebuild
