Have you not read this thread. If the Jets are big spenders in Fa, than there is a good chance if Richardson leaves in Fa, they won't get anything. I don't know how many times this been said, and still people don't understand.
You would expect that but he has also shown to have terrible judgement The Jets brought in Pennel. Also talented but troubled. They have been very pleasantly surprised with Dion Simon Both players are cheap. We're fine on the D-Line Deal Richardson tomorrow and get a third 3rd rounder. We have a lot of holes to fill.
I couldn't possibly disagree more on every single point. IMO it would be stupid to keep him. They desperately need the cap space that they can get from trading him and which they'll be hard pressed to get anywhere else without cutting players they want to keep. They don't need the distraction on a rebuilding team, or his being a cancer in the lockerroom.
That's fine it would be boring if everyone always agreed. They are gonna have plenty of cap room next year, what exactly do they need the cap room for this year? Selling low on extremely talented players is bad business. They'd be better off putting him in position to succeed next year and then reevaluate the DE position during the next offseason rather than give him away for nothing this season. If the trade makes sense then by all means trade him now, if not then keep him. I'm guessing they haven't gotten any offers that make sense since he is still a Jet. I find it extremely unlikely he is traded during the draft.
What do they need it for? They barely have enough space to sign their draft picks, and if they trade down a couple of times, may not have enough cap space. That will leave them little or no money to sign any camp cuts or for emergency replacements during the season. It isn't bad business when the guy has lowered his own worth, is a distraction, and in terms of attitude goes against trying to build a new team identity and positive atmosphere. They're not gonna re-sign him long term, and this is the time to move on. They're not gonna get rid of Mo or Williams and keep Richardson. There is nothing further to evaluate. Mac should have traded him before the trade deadline this past season.
If they find a team willing to trade for a 3rd or even 4th round, take the opportunity to trade him especially if we re rebuilding for couple of years.
You don't trade one of your top two most talented players for peanuts to sign a couple camp cuts during a wasted year. I'm pretty sure Mac is not worried about signing his draft picks. I agree he should've been traded before the trade deadline but he wasn't and he is still here and his value is extremely low.
Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. Normally, I would agree with you that you don't trade a talented player for peanuts, but this situation is different. I disagree that he is one of the Jets top two most talented players, but even if he is, imo his attitude, actions and the distraction they cause far outweigh his talent. Just as they have reduced his trade value to other teams, they have reduced his value to the Jets. You can't have it both ways. If his value is limited to other teams, then it's limited to the Jets as well. The Jets are rebuilding. Hopefully, they're trying to establish an identity as a team of smart players who are tough, disciplined, and who put the team first. That isn't Richardson. Richardson is all about money and himself, and certainly isn't smart. His attitude issues could adversely affect/influence young players on the team and undermine what the Jets are trying to do. All teams need emergency money during the season. If the team could help itself, not in terms of wins and losses this season, but in finding some younger veteran players who still have some upside/potential and can possibly help the team going forward, or even an older vet or two at positions of need who can help establish the kind of attitude they're seeking for a season or two, then they should, and not have to forego that due to not having any cap space. Even if the Jets draft a TE high, they are still going to be very thin at TE. Even if they draft a FS, they are going to be thin at that position. Gilchrist should be replaced, but even if he isn't, he may not be ready to start the season. This isn't a "tank job," it's a rebuild and they need to be able to put a respectable team on the field. They won't learn anything if they go out there and bumble and stumble their way through the season. Especially since the Jets aren't (or shouldn't be) concerned with wins and losses this season, there's no reason to keep Richardson around, even if they're only offered a 4th round pick or lower for him. The reality is that they'll probably seek to be active in FA next season when they have all that cap space that you're talking about. If so, then they'll wind up getting nothing for Richardson. They won't even get a 3rd round compensatory pick. Even a 4th or 5th round pick could wind up being a quality player for them. He could be just depth, a good rotational player, or even a starter. It would help him and the team to get him this year in such a good and deep draft, so that he can begin developing and contributing. Finally, absolutes like "You don't trade one of your top two most talented players for peanuts to sign a couple camp cuts during a wasted year. " are silly and mindless, just as always taking the BPA and not considering need or the position they play is imo. One has to weigh each situation on its own merits. They should be guidelines, not absolutes.
Will you guys get a grip? You can't just trade someone anytime you want! Sheldon is a middle of the road player. He is ranked 37th in the league with 142 tackles over his 4 years (Keuchley - 279!) and 16th in sacks over that period. Yet, he's being paid superstar money. It makes more sense to hope he grows up and becomes more productive here than to hope some team trades for him. I wish my fellow Jets fans would lose their reputations for overvaluing their own players. Ron
My hope is that they use him to gain more picks. Trade the #6 and Richardson to the Saints for their #11 and #32 (and/or some variety of 2nd and 3rds to equal the value). One can dream, right?
You could keep saying it but if they are not big spenders in free agency then he would be worth a draft pick. The team has a shitload of players who's contract will be up after this coming season, if they show enough to garner it then the $61M in cap space that everyone talks about could be used up rather quickly. Keeping in the back of the mind that he could possibly be worth a comp pick, dependent upon numerous other factors, is just as valid as claiming he will not be worth anything because the team is going to be a big spender in FA. You understand?
here is a thought. keep him and cut/trade away the guy who doesn't perform this year, whether it is him, wilkerson, mcclendon, etc.
It seems you make every post of yours into a drama. They don't desperately need the cap space and if they needed it that bad they could cut Gilchrist and save $6M right there. That is a likely reason why they drafted 2 safeties, he's not going to be ready for camp or possibly even the beginning of the regular season. Once he can pass a physical I would say he is a likely cut as he will likely take the rest of this season to recover fully. $15M over 2 seasons for likely 1 season of decent production in 2018 is not at all worth it. So not desperate for cap space, not hard pressed to find it and not at the cost of a player they want to keep. With Gilchrist back there getting the secondary lined up last year they looked like crap, now Adams can take over that role with Maye on the other side and Pryor or Miles in when they go with 3 S's. on top of that the money they save cutting Gilchrist is enough to cover the cap hit for Adams, Maye and Miles.
That thought has been expressed before. The Jets aren't keeping Richardson past this year. He's not the type of player they want character-wise or attitude-wise.
It looks like we're keeping him for the compensatory pick next year. We must have not gotten any offers larger than a late 4th/5th if we even received those offers. I just don't like how Sheldon seemingly clogs everything up for the other two. We have too much beef up front and not enough speed when all three are on the field. Hopefully Bowles makes adjustments to make it work this upcoming season and we find the special sauce to make them all effective rushers. It might be best to go with a formation of Richardson-Wilk-Leo-Mauldin/Jenkins/some sort of speed in obvious pass rushing situations. For god sakes though, stop lining him up at inside linebacker or sending him to the flats or even standing him up. He needs his hand in the dirt.
fuck trading him just play him at his damn position and not OLB and soak in the benefits like we did when we fell in love with him!
I still think they will try to trade him. It's certainly possible, but at this point who really knows. Their price would have to be in the 4th round range I'd think.
At this point, I believe that they should keep him in opes that he has a much improved year. I would only trade him if we got a legit starting QB. You hope he as a good year and franchise him next year in hopes of getting a better pick than you would have this year in a trade situation.
