Ca n the OL be overhauled this offseason?

In your own words:

1. Does ANY team have more than 2 proven OT? [Name one. I know there isn't one.]
2. So, unless Jets trade with that phantom team in your fantasy [don't mind they might not even want to trade] they are left with other NFL teams with 2 proven OTs or less. Who will trade their starting OT for Sheldon? You would? [I knew you would. You are such a fantastic GM material after all. Go apply for Patriots GM job right now.]

 

Preferably before the draft.

 

U,mmm...I don't think they did. They were going to but some team(s) said they might be interested in trading for him so they did not release him.

 

What would you (the Jets) be willing to trade for him?

 

Not too much, maybe our compensatory pick in round four.

You guys don't need him and his salary isn't exactly cheap.

 

Does anyone think Mangold has any trade value at all? His contract isn't smart for us to bring back but we still can. I'd have to think there'd be a team or two who'd take on the contract and give us some type of compensation. Even if it's a late round pick like a 5th or 6th maybe conditional it has to be worth more than just releasing him.

 

For a team that is in contention for a title that needs help on OL Mangold would be a good fit. I am sure the Packers or the Patriots would like to have Mangold on their roster.

His high salary, age, and injury history are negatives but he can play at a very high level when healthy.

We should try to trade him. If there are no takers we may have to bite the bullet and cut him loose.

 

That's what I'm thinking. If he were a head case with all that talent like Brandon Marshall we'd probably have to cut him but if we can get him healthy enough to trade there has to be value with a respected veteran like Mangold.

 

I don't know what you meant - so I quoted you, word for word.

It's not like I didn't like what I read. It just made no sense, so I pointed that out. So far, you have failed to list the potential trade partners, and you have failed to list the potential OT candidate. Yes, you have failed hard at this. I don't see a single name from you in this entire thread.

Or - is it one of these alternative fact bullshit? Brilliant. I knew you had it in you. Go apply for the Patriots GM job now, son.

 

He is being traded to Jax for Julius Thomas . Pending physicals and contract restructuring on both sides.

 

I love Mangold but honestly I doubt the Packers or Patriots would be interested in trading anything for him. Both have very good young centers, that are playing for very little money. It makes no sense for either to give up anything for him. Centers are not that difficult to find later in the draft or as UDFAs as is the case with NEs center .
Mangold is an expensive option who is at the end of his career. Teams obviously over pay FAs but are much less likely to give up draft picks for an aging, declining player.

 

What kind of center do you expect to get in round 5 or 6? Sure you can get lucky sometimes and of course you have to hope for the best with your 5th and 6th rounders but acting like it is no problem to get a starting center in the 5th or 6th is ludicrous.

 

The Packers do OK with a 5th round and an UDFA at center. NE took stork with the last pick round 4, won a super bowl with him, last year he was replaced with an UDFA and NE won another Superbowl.
You need to realize we need about 15 players if not more and only have one first round pick. Centers usually come off the boards late. Rounds 3-6. Of course there are exceptions but it is not as difficult a position to fill as others.
I know you're in the O line first camp, but the prospects are not very good this year. There is no overnight fix for the o line or roster.

 

Almost half of starting centers are 1st or 2nd rd picks (14 of 32 with a couple of others injured), another 7 are 3rd and 4th rounders. Of the 9 or so late rd picks that were starting last year at least 4 were starting due to injuries to the starter and a few were starting but on crap teams with no other options.
Maybe 2-3 centers, 5th round or later, actually were worthy of being called starting centers, so yes, it is that difficult to find starting caliber centers late in the draft or as UDFAs.

 

So enlighten us. Turn this team into a contender with 6 picks, $1.5 mill in cap space.
I'm eagerly awaiting your solution

 

Sorry, did I claim to be an NFL GM? Nope, I only pointed out that your statement, that it is easy to find starting caliber centers in the 5th or 6th round, was obviously wrong.

You don't want to get called out for ridiculous claims then don't make them.

Edit: Wait, I didn't think, can I use completely unrealistic draft scenarios to do it? Then it should be no problem. With the 7th round pick The Jets draft their starting QB for the next 20 years, who will be an All Pro for all 20 years while winning 15 Super Bowls. Wash, rinse and repeat for all the other draft picks.

 

Mangold is a Jets legend, but it's time for him to be put out to pasture. Wesley Johnson actually outplayed him last year IMO and is far cheaper. No brainer if you ask me-Mangold is broken down at this point.

 

If they project RR to be a 10 year starter at Left Tackle than it is worth the pick. Although I would be a little worried that he's being overvalued based on what school he went to.

Wisconsin's Oline was horrendous in 2015 and "meh" in 2016.

 

Yeah as Oline may not be drafted or that he may be a Undrafted pick!