Jets re-worked Clady's contract

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  1. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    Yeah this is a good move. Now you go find a few options to play LT and bring them into camp. Draft one, maybe grab a FA one. Keep Clady on tap just in case he's healthy and looks great. Otherwise, he gets cut, and everything is good
     
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    I normally find merit in all your posts, and I would agree this time as well, but for one reason--TODD BOWLES. Bowles is fiercely loyal to (which means he PLAYS) the grizzled vets NO MATTER HOW BADLY THEY SUCK! Do you think any other coach with a brain would have played Fitzpatrick and Revis (two of the worst players IN THE LEAGUE) ALL YEAR OTHER THAN THAT MINDLESS MORON BOWLES? This latest contract to Clady now invites Bowles to gush about how great Clady looks in camp and preseason so he CAN keep another washed out vet (and further damage the overly-needed rebuilding process ). Bowles will then play Clady all year no matter how badly he performs. More than anything, Todd Bowles lacks Parcells' "ability" (balls) to sit or deactivate players who do not get the job done REGARDLESS OF THEIR CONTRACT, TIME IN THE LEAGUE, OR SHOWING ON THE FIELD. If truly concerned about getting our QB "killed" as you post, the jets should put Clady in their rear view mirror NOW instead of this silly "you'll probably be cut unless we can't find another warm body" contract. Most teams get it that players DO HAVE shelf lives AND most teams realize that you PAY players for what they have LEFT, not what they did in the past--for years the jets have understood neither, and this contract is another example of why the jets will remain in the AFC basement (until they get a new coach who is neither a cheerleader (Rex), nor a clueless zombie (Bowles) and a GM not filling the roster with overpaid has beens).
     
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    I miss the Tanny days. Clady would have been extended 2 more years and his $2.5M guarantee would have been increased to $10M.
     
  4. NCJetsfan

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    Tom, thanks for your kind words. I agree with you regarding Bowles, and totally understand your frustration. Unfortunately, we're stuck with him (Bowles) for the 2017 season. I'm not so sure that Clady will be here for Bowles to start. He may not be healthy. Mac may be able to sign a FA LT or draft an lT. Whatever the case, I'm not expecting much of anything in 2017. The most I'm hoping for is seeing some of the Jets young players develop for the future.
     
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    The chick in your avatar is hot!!!
    On topic, I have to say that this move isn't bad as long as Mac isn't happy with the position and uses his time and possible money to find an upgrade. Clady will only play 6-10 games for that 10 million. I don't think he is worth it. If he plays all 16 games and has one of his better seasons, maybe.
    Mac seems to have a short attention span. This may be his only attempt at solidifying the LT position.
     
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  6. Red Menace

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    He is still doing it in Miami, I read an article this morning that he's looking to get some draft picks back this year.

    Picks he traded away to get veterans on the roster. Very few of these guys change their habits.

    Don't put it past Mac to give Clady and extension if he looks good in camp and preseason....:eek:
     
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    Smart move, however I really hope that we find a better alternative, and cut Clady.
     
  8. Beki

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    Jets still have a decision to make on LT Ryan Clady next week re: option for '17 that triggers a $1m roster bonus. Same as initial contract.
    Clady/Jets redid his contract late last year strictly for cap purposes. Timeline and compensation for ('17) stayed the same. One to watch.
     
  9. The Dark Knight

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    Cut him then. Too much of a health risk.
     
  10. TwoHeadedMonster

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    Rex Ryan would have. No question.
     
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  11. LAJet

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    Agree. He has made some very good deals. Resigning Fitz was absolutely not one of them. The real questions is who was pushing for that move? I'll argue it was Bowles, and it was a mistake.
     
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  12. John Lombardo

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    I really hope Winters learned to never do something that dumb again. I can't imagine that mistake being made twice (the headbutt concussion), as I am sure that was quite embarrassing for him
     
  13. PulseJet

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    I think your right and I also think Mac was put in a bad situation. After Fitz' career year, Bowles promised that he was the starter next year, knowing he wasn't signed yet, giving Fitz leverage. He had it anyway, but Bowles didn't help.

    So Mac had to resign him to satisfy his coach, the veterans on the team, and to some extent the fan base that didn't expect the regression that came. If Fitz walked, or sat out the year as he threatened, a bad season would be blamed directly on Mac. Decker and Marshalls big mouths didn't help either.

    Even still, Mac tried a low ball offer, and walked it up a bit to get Fitz in early. In the end Mac did his job and got the Bowles his QB, but Fitz was a dickhead. He came to camp out of shape and unprepared and it showed.

    At least Mac didn't sign him to a multi-year guaranteed deal. Fitz won't be back and the Jets will move on.
     
  14. mr nyjet

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    bravo! stop doing the same thing that has not worked.
    as long as he is on the roster, he is taking up cap space.
    they should cut ALL the high cap guys, and maybe re-sign a few at much lower numbers.
    if they walk elsewhere, so what! we are not going to the super bowl any time soon.
    teams like the packers and steelers , and the pats let overpaid guys walk away all the time.
    hasn't exactly stopped them from winning trophies over the past 45 years.
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    He's a turnstile, and an oft injured one at that
     
  16. I don't think it's a good move but not having a fall back option at LT going into a weak OL draft is an even worse move..it's not ideal..but there aren't alot of options right now.
     
  17. Br4d

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    The problem is that there is no scenario in which you can rely on Ryan Clady to be your LT next year and that includes the one where he is looking good in training camp entering the season.

    His skills are in decline based on age and injuries and he cannot stay healthy in any case.

    Keeping him around as an option is just adding another position that will be a crucial failure at some point between now and the end of the 2017 season. Knowing where that point of failure will occur is not possible but knowing that it is 80% likely to happen is just a no-brainer at this point.

    Given that reality, there is no reason to keep him around. He's just interfering with the Jets thought processes at LT, which should be laser-focused on finding the guy who will be their cornerstone for the next decade so the franchise QB has half a chance to succeed when they find him as well.

    The Jets should never have traded for Clady last year. It was a weak move from a rebuilding perspective that turned into a weak move from a competitive perspective when his skills had further declined and then he got hurt. It was the antithesis of a smart football move and now it is promoting more bad moves in its wake.
     
  18. Red Menace

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    There are some moves that don't need to be over analyzed, and it seems the jets GM over analyzes simple straight forward moves that any average GM knows has to be made.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they kept Revis just so they won't have to find someone else that might be as bad and pay the cap money of 6 million and another 6 million for an average cb.
     
  19. I'm assuming then...that you'd be happier with Brett Qvale or Ben Ijalana being the fall back option? Not being condescending...just honestly curious.

    I don't think we can force the LT issue..there just isn' t a plug n play LT in this draft class. In most draft class's they're usually are 1 or 2. This year is a rare exception. If we draft an OT rest assured..even if he starts from day 1..there will be major growing pains & there will need to be a time consideration for proper development.

    Maybe we get lucky..Shell continues on his path at RT..and we can use a TE on blindside to help whomever is lining up. Short of a major FA signing or Cam Robinson having a mind blowing combine...we aren't finding a 10 year fixture at LT or at least one ready for battle right off the bat.
     
  20. Br4d

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    The fact that standing pat with Qvale and Ijalana at LT would be a weak move does not make moving ahead with Clady on the roster a good move.

    The Jets need to find the LT for the window they hope to build as a priority #1 project at this point. Clady will not be that guy no matter how emerald-colored the glasses you look through at this point. Qvale and Ijalana are exceedingly unlikely to be a starting-caliber LT in 2019 but they're both way ahead of Clady on that front and at a fraction of the cost on the cap and out of pocket.

    This is really a no-brainer move. The only way keeping Clady can be seen as a positive at this point is from the standpoint of potentially saving Bowles and Mac's jobs - and it's only a small chance at doing that. Much more likely is the scenario where they rely on him and then he fails (again) and they get fired because there are no good options behind him at LT because the Jets just assumed Clady was going to get the job done.

    2017 means absolutely nothing in terms of competitive play for the Jets right now. Moves that are made to shore up the year will hurt us in future years when we might actually have a chance if the rebuild goes well.
     

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