The only good news is this will put the Jets in the drivers seat for the top pick next year in what should be a very good QB draft. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The team is not talentless. But the fact that even the talented players have looked terrible is a reflection that the coaching has been terrible. I can't contrive any reason that Bowles should keep his job.
How does this work though? Competitive Rebuild was always pure BS and remains BS at this point. What the Jets did last year was go all-in on aging stars and hope they could get over the top. That was Competitive, not Rebuild. They failed at that. This year they basically stayed the course on that plan with even more vets brought in (Forte, McClendon, Jarvis Jenkins, etc.) to fortify the team for the second year of the vet window. Next year they have to rebuild the offensive line and the defensive secondary and they still don't know if the young LB's or WR's are real. They have no QB likely to be able to play at a high level in 2017. That's pure Rebuild with likely no Competitive aspects involved no matter who coaches the team. So, if Todd Bowles sticks around for one more year only it is likely as the sacrificial goat on the altar of rebuilding a bad team from scratch, and having just the defensive line as a highly competitive unit makes you a bad team in the NFL. If the Jets are committed to rebuilding the team at this point they either have to make a Marvin Lewis level commitment to Bowles or they need to move on after the season and hire somebody who has the chops to rebuild the franchise from scratch, using the available talent on the defensive line as their baseline. Think a Bill Parcells level hire if they do that. They need to have somebody who is the law on the team and who people listen too and follow without asking too many questions along the way. They need to have somebody who is willing to retire overpaid under-performing vets when those guys aren't pulling their freight. They need somebody who has a plan beyond Sunday because Sundays are going to be kind of bad for the next year or two no matter who they have at the helm. I could see the going either way on the coaching decision. If you commit to Todd Bowles then all the vets are on notice that he has the organizations backing and then it is up to him to sweep the room clear of obstacles so the players who really want to be part of a winning organization and are willing to sell out to get there can do that. If you bring in the big name, the only guy in the organization whose opinion will matter during the rebuild, then you get the same effect. The one thing that isn't likely to happen is keeping Bowles and getting a huge season out of a very flawed talent base. We shouldn't be expecting that and it isn't likely to happen. You could bring Drew Brees in here next year at 38 or whatever and the best you'd likely get out of it would be similar to the Brett Favre year, likely followed by a Todd Bowles firing just like Eric Mangini got fired after 2008. The thing that's clear about this team right now, crystal clear, is that they're old, fragile and overpaid as a group at the top of the salary chart. Sweeping the old guys out and clearing all that cap space is probably a necessary slash and burn but new talented guys don't grow on trees and the Jets will not gain a talent advantage as they sweep out the old guys. They'll get replacement level guys in their place for the most part and 4-12 is what looms in that situation. We think that we have younger guys waiting to take their place but most of the talented younger guys are just a few years at most behind the old guys. Old isn't 36 in the NFL. Old is 30.
We're having the season I thought we were going to have. I saw no reason to sit through the same conversations we all had in 2005 and 2007. In 2005 we wound up with a 6th round pick with no future holding the ball at the end of the year. In 2007 it was a 2nd round pick with no future. This year we split the difference and it was a 4th rounder. I don't dislike Petty at all but man he looks to me like a serviceable backup QB.
Not for nothing but can't you at least proof read the title? Having said that, Bull shit! Bowles at a minimum needs to get his walking papers.
Not sure I agree with retaining Bowles, personally I would get rid of him and change the power structure which allows Macc more power than the coach. But if retained, then most if not all of the coaches on Bowles' staff need to be given their walking papers. Kacy Roders, Pepper Johnson, Brant Boyer, and Gailey all come to mind as coaches who may get the ax. It's clear that this year has been plagued by too many players who simply lost motivation and that is the kind of attitude that permeates and kills a team. Rid the team of those players, and continue to draft players who are hungry, well spoken and humble. Changing the culture is what is needed.
It would be really nice if he came back at a reduced rate. They also need to lock up enunwa in the off season or before he hits free agency
How so? Even if you think Bowles is the worst coach in the league, the reality is that the Jets will almost assuredly have an easier schedule then they did this year. . . and this year they have a legitimate chance to finish 5-11 or 6-10 (no where near being in "the drivers seat" for the top pick)
Yeah. We need to get a less experienced dumbass up in this mug. Change is good in the NFL. Maybe we can land the Raiders TE coach.
I.agree with you that coaching staff needs to change. Rodgers has done a terrible job this season. I think Gailey has had his ups and downs, most downs. If they make changes, I'll interested to see who takes over. Please no first time coordinators. Where I had a problem with what you wrote is what you said about Maccagnan. Both he and Bowles report to Woody. Are we assuming they are equals? I thought the coach reports to the GM. I think Mac is in charge of personnel changes. Maybe someone here knows how that works.
the cowboys invested multiple first round picks in their offensive line. they got lucky with a 4th round qb, or had an ufa qb , romo, running the offense. we may have gotten lucky with a 4th round qb, petty. but, we nned to invest a first and second round picks on uour offensive line, especially at left tackle . no qb, even broadway joe, could function well under the current line with the tackles, clady and giacomini. qvale has looked ok, but the left tackle is just not up to that position requirements. center may or may not be another spot where we need to look at.
You have to stick with both at least until after next season Firing one of or both of them any time before that puts us a very bad look on this franchise and no respectable coach would even give the jets the time of day.
after watching bowles this year, i actually was wishing mangini was back. at least he held players accountable. the hoodie would have dumped at least 6 of them before the year started or by the trade deadline. there is no way mangini would have let pickpatrick get signed or started at qb. i will at least give him credit for that.
You don't know if Bowles holds his players accountable or not. Also how do you know if Mangini would have signed or not Fitzpatrick. He took his marching orders from Woody, just Bowles does. Or are overlooking the Favre signing? It's widely known that Mangini was not enamored with Favre.
