Memo to Mac I am watdhing a brilliant Coach on MNF His name is JON GRUDEN: A winning SB Coach with passion and brains Sign this beast of a coach outa retirement!!!
Defense doesnt win you shit?Did you miss the last few Superbowls?Yes it was the Broncos high octane offense that won it.And the Seahawks awful secondary.....Your living in a world that doesnt exist.
Teams have figured Bowles out because he refuses to adjust. Teams have figured Fitz out by making him force the ball when down. At this point there's nothing to have any hope for.
I refuse to open a this thread. If you can't be bothered to proof read the title I can only imagine how your post reads. Wait....damn it
1. QB stinks 2. secondary stinks 3. Lb's are mediocre 4. No Te, as we watch each team we plays TE kill us every week 5. QB still stinks- 12 mil wasted, could have gotten a corner and a TE 6. Play Forte and Powell together 7. Bowles get a clue 8. Marshall shut your fuckin' mouth and play football, nobody cares what you think
Obviously you didn't bother reading the rest of the sentence and just cherry picked your quote from my post. Defense doesn't win you shit in 2016 unless you have superior OLB and superior outside cornerbacks with decent players filling out the rest. Our DL will never win us shit because olinemen on the inside are allowed to hold 90% of the time, making them worthless besides the occasional sack and stuffing the run. All pro outside passrush olb > all pro dline men.
not saying that, but I'm saying you have to try and keep some consistency if you want to win. bowles deserves at least 3-4 more years before getting outed IMO
What on earth exactly has Bowles done to warrant 3-4 more years? That's the most asinine thing I've read on this board in a long time.
1) Our QB is having the "back to reality" year (he's a career journeyman for a reason) that anyone with half a brain more or less expected. Remember, last year was, BY FAR, the best season of his career. He wasn't going to duplicate 30+ TD passes. Too many people on this message board either consciously or subconsciously penciled him in for another big year. 2) Due to the inescapable reality of #1, we needed our defense to take the next step and become a truly elite unit, if we were going to have a realistic shot at competing against this big daddy schedule. Sadly, it has actually regressed. Worse yet, I believe the reason for this is that our defensive talent was grossly overrated and overvalued to begin with. I don't think our defensive line is as good as people think it is. I think our OLBs are meh. And our secondary is hot fucking garbage. 3) Bowles has had a terrible first four games. Poor gameplans, little intensity, general team sloppiness galore. Unfortunately, I don't think there is much you can do about (1) or (2) in season, other than bench Fitz at some point and hope for a miracle. Fixing (3) will ultimately depend on how much self-awareness and intestinal fortitude our head coach actually has. We'll find out soon enough . . .
Sure there is, you can put Petty in there and see if he can do what the other rookies in the league are doing. Look, the fact is, Sixpicktrick is the same guy as last year and the team is mostly the same. What has changed is the schedule. Ron
last time I checked after only 1 .25 years 1) turned a 4 win team to a 10 win team 2) offense was top 10 for the 1st time in forever 3) had a top 10 defense as well we are 1/4th through the season. A lot of football left, bowles might turn out to be bad, but i guarantee we will never even sniff a superbowl if we keep changing coaches every 2 years
It is much more likely that teams have a consistent coaching staff because they're good, rather than they're good because they have a consistent coaching staff (if you're the coach of a team that keeps winning there's no reason you would get fired). If it was the latter effect you would see coaches win the Super Bowl after starting with a team and not having a good record for a while (your argument of letting a guy get 8 years). You want to know how many coaches in the last 40 years have won a Super Bowl with a team after not making the playoffs the first three years they coached the team? Zero. You have to go back to Chuck Noll, and then Tom Landry and Weeb Ewbank, to find coaches who were allowed to continue coaching a team that was not successful for a while until they were good enough to win it all. If you don't see some success pretty quickly (like in the first three years), there is very little evidence that you will ever see it. I would say that it is your second point that is actually the one that matters. You won't find a consistently good team without a franchise QB. You might be able to luck out in a year or two with a game manager or a one-hit wonder, maybe even win a Super Bowl that way, but sooner rather than later you'll need a quarterback who can put the team on his back and win games for you. This is obviously the situation the Jets have had pretty much for their entire history (given Namath's and Pennington's injuries, as they were the only [potential] franchise QBs the team ever had). And that has just about nothing to do with the head coach.
coughlin was pretty bad his 1st 3 years with the giants. in 2004 they went 6-10 in 2005 they went 11-5 and lost in the 1st round 23-0 in 2006 they snuck in the playoffs at 8-8 and lost in the 1st round 23-0 again at that point people wanted him gone. it was 3 years, they couldn't win in the playoffs and overall he was 25-22 with an 0-2 playoff record, fans were chanting fire coughlin from the stands. they stuck with him and in 2007 won the SB 2008 went 12-4 lost their first playoff game 2009 went 8-8 no playoffs 2010 went 10-6 no playoffs 3 more years go by, no playoff wins. At this point he is 55-40, 7 years 3 years missing the playoffs, 3 years being 1 and done in the playoffs. only in the SB year of 2007 did they win any playoff games , again fans wanted him fired. Giants stuck with him 2011 went 9-7 and won the SB 2012 9-7 2013 7-9 2014 6-10 2015 6-10 4 more years of no playoffs before they finally forced him out (basically said retire or we'll fire you) so he retired to save face. Overall he went 92-83 in 12 years. made the playoffs 5 out of 7 years. 3 of those 5 were 1 and done including being shut out 23-0 twice. but the other 2 he won SBs had the giants abandoned him after 3 years and started over, it's highly doubtful they would have won those 2 rings
The point is Coughlin MADE the playoffs with the Giants and made one hell of a QB decision when he put Eli in 2004 after Kurt was playing poor. Bowles needs to make the playoffs next year, not a chance he makes it in his first 2 yrs.
