These 'fans' just don't get it. Let's get rid of one of our biggest assets just because of one game with a line that has all the potential to be one of the best ever.... this thread is inane
richardson and steve don't play the same position. steve has no bearing on the richardson decision IMO. it's wilk who just got paid big money and isn't going anywhere, and williams who has 4 years left on a rookie deal and is relatively cheap. meaning that rich is the odd man out. we can't pay him 15 mil a year when we are already paying wilk 17 mil a year and williams is playing well and on his rookie deal as the 6th overall pick. it would be costing us almost 35 million a year. That would be costing us 25% of the cap in 3 players all playing the same position. You just can't do that in the NFL. What steve did though, is make us forget about losing snacks which is a good thing
What to do with Sheldon? The same thing you do with Wilk & Leonard.Move them all over the place in a base front 4 w/ Mclendon,Lawrence,Thomas,The Jenkins twins & Mauldin mixed in. Keep the O confused.Keep the guys fresh. Dominate start to finish.
here is an idea: tell your hc and dc to play a 4-3. max out the talent on the field. given the back end, also consider running a 4-2-5 base defense. pryor is like a hybrid safety/outside lb anyways....
EXACTLY, and this really goes into effect in the second half of the season when teams are beat up and tired! Adding Richardson Thursday allows us to play 4-3 hybrids and allows us more flexibility. His teammates have praised McClendon the whole preseason saying he was "OX" strong and boy were they right. This D-Line with the addition of McClendon and Thomas & Jenkins will be the key to our Push into the Playoffs.
I think the a lot of rotation is what's going to happen..... But I will say this: Sheldon better knock the offseason troublemaking shit off if he wants to stay..... Our Depth would make it really easy for a no nonsense coach to cut him if the issues continue
Well the hope is that they don't clog up the lanes for each other. It happened a lot last year when they were all featured in the same set. They all have a similar skill set and operate in the same space. The pass rush disappeared a lot last year when they were all playing together. Hopefully it doesn't happen this year. But with the god awful secondary you take an elite strength and weaken it a tiny bit to greatly improve a weakness. With that being said, this isn't the MLB. In season trades rarely happen so I doubt it happens. I hope he plays well so we can move him in the offseason for picks, or to move up and get a top 5 pick.
Great post. I believe this is more a result of not playing together. While they all are similar guys..the very essence of what makes them similar is their body types & how they're able to do basically anything schematically. They should be able to mix & match a bunch of looks up front that fit everyone's fancy. Preseason game 3 the last drive 1st D had before the 2's came in..They showed a 4-3 over/under look w/ Wilk/Sheldon at the ends & Williams/Mclendon inside. It looked pretty fierce with good leverage on the edges & proper spacing.Perhaps this is the way they go in base as well as crucial junctures.
This brings up an interesting question: I doubt we keep all 3 of Richardson, Wilkerson, and Williams on huge contracts... Who stays who goes?
Quite likely we choose Leo and Mo and Steve. Which means Shelden will run off for the $$$..So we should trade him before he leaves. Because he will.
Easily. Wilk has his deal and Leonard Williams obviously has a good amount left on his rookie deal. This isn't a Revis situation where we'll trade him and immediately start looking to draft help to replace him. Trading Sheldon is basically going to be house money for this team and will help us rebuild the offense with a key draft pick. We'd be foolish to not trade him before he's a free agent. He's not staying. Get a 2nd & a 4th like New England did with Chandler Jones. We just need the god damn guy to stay out of trouble before that time comes because no one wants to give up big time picks for a dude that will be looking at a huge suspension for his next offense.
The giants didn't have big fatties on the edge, they had speedsters. If we play four down we are relying on our not so good LBs to do even more.
Williams will eventually be what players like Watt/Suh are/were. The undisputed best. Can't believe he fell to 6.
He's undersized for a nose tackle, he's basically the same size as Wilk. What makes Will so awesome is that with his size he's still athletic enough to basically play like a 4-3 DE on the edge and wreck wherever we put him.
We played 4 DL plus Catapano all along the line against the Giants as a base D in the preseason. like you said, Wilk and Sheldon on the Ends, Williams as DT, McClendon as NT, and Catapano on the strong side. Harris and Henderson/Lee as the ILBs. Played the same formation this week against Cincy, with Lawrence Thomas filling in well for Sheldon's spot. on Nickel, the 4 DL have stayed as well, with Catapano coming off. that surprised me the most, but it's working well.
If we wanted a coach to simply run a scheme we shouldn't have fired Rex. IF what you're saying ends up being true over the course of the season then we need to clean house because this team desperately needs someone who can find a way to make the most out of the talent we have, not someone who could maybe possibly succeed if we give him the right players for the right price. We have a lot of older players that are about to be done for good and a few of them don't even have viable replacements (Revis, Mangold, etc). I haven't lost faith in Bowles but I am hoping he learned from this Bengals game and becomes Todd Balls because if he doesn't it's back to the drawing board and another reset is gonna end up with a long rebuild given the state of our best players.
You know what, that's fucked up. At least trade him to the Seahawks or Packers or something. The fucking Browns???
