Hackenberg

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  1. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Definitely smarter than you.
    I'm glad you see the light. You wanna bow down and kiss my feet ?
     
  2. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    So busy bullshitting and making shit up you couldn't pick up on what the dude meant. Yeah, you're brilliant. Hahahaha
     
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  3. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    His last season, his coach cut his attempts down. Why would he do that? Because he can't throw the ball with any accuracy and he obviously can't read defenses. The year before his TD's and INTC's were almost the same. You cannot deny how Robinson made him look better than he really was. There is also no doubt that losing O'Brien leaving hurt him.
    He recruited him and knew how to mask all his issues better than Hacks second coach at Penn St.
    Strong arms with no accuracy don't mean shit. Face it. The pick is a disaster, which is starting to expose the great Mike Macc, and we will never see Hack leading this team in a good direction. Projects at QB never work out. Hell projects in the NFL never do. You either have it or you don't. I can't believe we wasted a second round pick on this guy. What a joke!
     
  4. tbruner12

    tbruner12 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, you haven't made one truthful statement yet. You haven't added one bit of truth to the Hack debacle. All you can do is blindly follow the herd.
    I understood him quite clearly, maybe you should try remedial reading.
    Hahahaha, yet so true!
    Good day chap
     
  5. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Mind boggling post. A head scratcher if I've ever seen one.

    Throughout that whole rant of yours, you completely failed to mention the fact(s) that Hackenberg was quarterbacking behind arguably the worst NCAA Division-1 offensive line over the past 20 years. Therefore he had no time in the pocket (whatsoever) to sit back and actually scan the field for open receivers. The kid was beat the fk up due to an awful/makeshift O-Line, or lack thereof.

    But yet you continue to use "completion percentage" as an accurate assessment of his accuracy. Real classy (rather laughable).

    You conveniently decided to leave out while ignoring the fact that after Robinson as his #1 WR left for the NFL, poor Hackenberg had absolutely no NFL caliber weapons on offense surrounding Penn State's QB position (behind atrocious offensive linemam) throughout his next two seasons). Just ask Blake Bortles how rewarding it is to have A.Robinson feasting on the outside.

    It also appears as if you don't know too much regarding Penn State's coaching staff. Even Gruden, a QB guru, was disheartened how that coaching staff (after O'Brien left) literally forced this kid to change his footing with his right foot back under Center (rather than his left).

    You also, during your rant, oh-so conveniently (purposely) left out the fact where Penn State was no longer eligible for bowl games due to being sanctioned/punished by the NCAA while no longer being able/allowed to recruit top blue chip prospects during Hackenberg's tenure with PSU.

    I'd never compare any QB prospects to that of Montana. But even the great Joe Montana ended college with a poor QB completion percentage of only 52.0 before retiring from the NFL with an elite QB percentage of 63.2%. It's absolutely amazing how Jerry Rice was able to help his QB(s).

    Nonetheless you won't (and can't) name us 1 QB over the past 10 drafts that would've flourished with Penn State under Hackenberg's less than ideal/shitty situations within a college program being punished by the NCAA while quarterbacking behind an awful O-Line with lackluster talent level surrounding the QB position.

    P.S: You lost all credibility you ever had when stating "Hackenberg obviously can't read defenses". That's his plus. His mental I.Q of the position is why he went 2nd round. Guess you've failed to realize that Hackenberg was running N.E's complex offensive philosophy at the age of only 18 under O'Brien. Learned the same technical system in which Tom Brady has mastered over the years.

    I'm sure our G.M in Macc would've laughed at your post above regarding Hackenberg's potential moving forward. I as a poster had to strongly disagree. With insight, knowledge & understanding too.

    Since you're the "QB know-it-all"... Just how many of Penn State's offensive lineman were drafted over the past two years? After Robinson how many WR's/TE's/RB's were drafted over the past two NFL drafts? I know the answers, but do you? I'll (rather we'll) be waiting.

    (GOTEM).
     
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  6. Mogriffjr

    Mogriffjr Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I could love this post more lol. And it hurts seeing some of the decent talent that DID come through the pipeline at those positions completely flame out because they weren't good enough, or just failed to produce. Kyle Carter, Adam Breneman, Jesse James, Akeel Lynch just to name a few were the WAVE of talent that was coming up with Hack. I just looked up Kyle Carter, a kid I felt would have been a TE picked among the first TE's when he would have come out...he bombed out his last two seasons and scouts asked him "what happened?" Yes it was partially Carter's fault he failed to produce, but in that offense since Franklin came aboard, it seems it hurt and hindered the skill positions more than helped. The offensive line was embarrassing that most moments it wasn't even D1 talent starting and playing!
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I always find it funny when people make statements like this. Do you have access to the other teams draft boards? I just looked at his projected draft position in a few sites and they all had him going round 1-3.
     
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  8. JetsFanDoc

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    I really want to see Hack in game action but I also like the idea of this as his "red shirt" season. Unfortunately NFL doesn't have a red shirt policy, lol. What are they gonna do? I really think at this point all signs point towards the necessity to cut Geno. I understand you want an "established veteran" at the backup spot but the only thing Geno is established as is a complete bust. Time to move on.


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  9. 101GangGreen101

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    They ran a shitty ass spread offense and changed his lower body mechanics, that coach had no idea what he was doing in Penn State. For someone that talks a lot, I see a lot of missing information. You should do your research more before posting.
     
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  10. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    We have no idea. early indication are what we thought a strong armed inaccurate QB. The kid is only 21 and has time to improve no need to expose him to the wolves just yet. Next preseason is what I want to see after working with some good QB coaches.
     
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  11. Big Cat

    Big Cat Well-Known Member

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    I also think the Jets will beat the Bills this season, but not because of a statistically invalid argument. Read up:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy
     
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  12. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who openly/loudly proclaims to be both the smartest, most knowledgeable person and continuously makes player assessment declarations as though they were infallible absolutes in the broad, established realm of countless open, ever changing variables and unknowns that defines new draftees and rookie prospects is neither smart nor knowledgeable. Anything but, if fact. The most intelligent people are typically the most humble and the first to admit just how little they know despite being the most knowledgeable in their fields of expertise.

    In the meantime, might we consider not feeding the troll(s)? Arguing with them is about as a productive and worthwhile exercise as screaming your head off while trying to persuade the guy in your bathroom mirror to stop imitating you.
     
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  13. HomeoftheJets

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    It's called the Dunning Kruger effect. Either that or just trolling.
     
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  14. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

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    Just looked it up. Very, very interesting. Thanks!
     
  15. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You're wasting your breath responding to that clueless twit. He thinks he knows everything and knows nothing. He's a cretin of the first order. If everyone will just ignore his stupid ass, maybe he'll crawl back under the rock that he crawled out from under in order to post. In 15 years of posting on Jets fan sites, he's without a doubt, the dumbest, most arrogant and delusional poster I've seen, and that's saying a lot. He's even dumber than nyjunc.
     
  16. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Well said!
     
  17. No Fly Zone

    No Fly Zone Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we can all put up a poll and vote to swap him out for a season ban and bring back Stokes early. Hell if NObama can pardon people they can do it here too.
     
  18. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I didn't know that Stokes had been banned. I'd be in favor of a swap, however.
     
  19. Altoona

    Altoona Well-Known Member

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    The "Ignore" feature is awesome and nearly just as effective. Give it a try!! It's almost as though "it" never existed the way it removes virtually all traces of blabbering, nonsensical blather.
     
  20. Dierking

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    It's also called being a moron.
     

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