Another mass shooting - Orlando Florida night club

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  1. Ubiquitous

    Ubiquitous Well-Known Member

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    You can't separate his homophobic beliefs from his religious beliefs, which is why any radical religious views are dangerous, regardless of whether they're Jewish, Christian, or Islamic. Anyone who pledges allegiance to ISIS is a total homophobe by default. The shooter also hated blacks, women, and Jews.
     
  2. VanderbiltJets

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    Islamophobes need to get over themselves and their racism. ISIS equals bad but Muslim does not equal ISIS. Unless WBC is representative of all Christians, then in that case you may be onto something...
     
  3. VanderbiltJets

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    But does it necessarily mean that his main target is blacks women or Jews? What about Latinos? He targeted Latinos and gays on Saturday night.
     
  4. VanderbiltJets

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    The acceptance of homophobic and transphobic believes in America directly contributed to this attack more than any religion or ideology.
     
  5. Ubiquitous

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    Maybe he hated gays the most. Who knows man....

    I just hate religion. Does no good in the modern world.
     
  6. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    You ever find it funny that only white Americans make the separation between Isis and Islam? I mean , a whole lot of us would feel better if Islam denounced Isis and the like. But you gotta dig pretty deep and find the very few that will
     
  7. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Oh come on, lol. I think you need to study what radical Islamists are taught . Maybe just research enough to learn what they think if homosexuality
     
  8. NY Jets68

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    Islam, now a race.

     
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  9. VanderbiltJets

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    That's the point though. If he were an Islamist by your logic then it doesn't explain his precise motives, which in this case weren't rooted in religion but homophobia. It's very simple: this dude was willing to align himself with Pat fucking Robertson if it meant recognition and publicity of his heinous acts. He also called the Boston Bombers his homeboys. Should I also take that statement literally, and assume that they were good friends at some point? Being some piece of shit wasn't good enough for him, so he decided to piggyback on ISIS to try and justify his actions and make himself feel less of a shitty person. Psychos like him don't deserve the recognition that he's getting right now: he's too much of a pussy to join ISIS so instead he randomly targets a bunch of defenseless strangers. He's was a pathetic lonely coward who wanted to feel better about himself, not an arm of the Islamic State.
     
  10. VanderbiltJets

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    Fact: anti-semitism also makes Judaism a race.
     
  11. VanderbiltJets

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    The dude said literally nothing while he was shooting about Islam or being Muslim. Telling a 911 operator that you're an ISIS sympathizer is just attention-seeking.
     
  12. typeOnegative13NY

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    Wasn't there just last week an Islamic speaker in the area saying how gays should be killed
     
  13. VanderbiltJets

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    9/11 is a really shitty excuse to hate every peaceful Muslim in the world. Youre doing bin Laden's work for him. You should contact the dozens of Muslims who have posted pictures of themselves on social media giving blood in Orlando despite also fasting.
     
  14. JStokes

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    Yeah sounds like he was an angry white bigot.

    That's a fucking nose on the front of your face.

    Accept it.

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  15. typeOnegative13NY

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    was he supposed to hand out business cards to the victims ? I hope you are kidding , because this is just getting ridiculous
     
  16. VanderbiltJets

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    Yep, and WBC has protested gay funerals in Orlando. Religious fanatics are fucking crazy. Hell, the church I used to attend in FL is run by a priest who has said in the pulpit that gays deserve to go to die and go to Hell while at the same time he quietly relieved a priest of his duties who was accused of pedophilia. Florida has a lot of fucked up people, we all know this. But that doesn't make one shitty priest or one shitty person representative of an entire religion. And if you think it does I worry for you.
     
  17. VanderbiltJets

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    No. There were reports that's he wa shouting "praise allah" in Arabic. Those reports are false. A lot of misinformation like that is driving your misunderstandings.
     
  18. typeOnegative13NY

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    When did I say I hate every Muslim? The fact remains that Islam does not speak out enough against radicalization. Leaving much to be questioned. What are you reading from the Bernie sanders handbook? its like forcing terror upon people and calling them racist if they don't comply
     
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    if that's a concern of anybody's, then it should t be you telling the world that these actions don't speak for an entire religion.
     
  20. VanderbiltJets

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    Correction: he spoke on March 29th in Sanford. Many churches host many different speakers, and obviously whoever agreed with his statements deserves to die, for their own benefit.

    The weird thing is even, despite his rhetoric, that man condemned the attack.
     

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